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by Deven
Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:34 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Bessler's Secret Force
Replies: 94
Views: 41843

I've been thinking about this a bit more. If a wheel were capable of turning with gravity alone, and actually doing work, couldn't that extra work be transferred to an electromagnet, which in turn would then apply more force to the masses, causing more work to be done? Would the potential amount of ...
by Deven
Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:57 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Bessler's Secret Force
Replies: 94
Views: 41843

My first dabbling into PM actually had to do with water pressure and electrolysis. If you search my posts, I made one that had to do with an infinitely deep sea using gravity to power electrolysis to the point where gravity gave enough energy to electrolysize x amount of water in a closed system, an...
by Deven
Fri Sep 14, 2007 7:42 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Bessler's Secret Force
Replies: 94
Views: 41843

I'm not saying I think its gravity, though I think it very well could be. I think Jim might be on to something, and with some tests and models that I have I think its very possible it is CFs/inertia. I just honestly don't think its environmental, for the reasons I stated above. The window reference ...
by Deven
Fri Sep 14, 2007 7:11 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Bessler's Secret Force
Replies: 94
Views: 41843

re: Bessler's Secret Force

Maybe I'm digging a little too deep here, but, perhaps the "always summer" quote is in reference to the four quadrants of a circle. If you start with spring in quadrant 1, summer in 2, fall in 3 and winter in 4, wouldn't it make sense that the wheel was overbalanced in the summer quadrant?...
by Deven
Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:02 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Bessler's Secret Force
Replies: 94
Views: 41843

Re: re: Bessler's Secret Force

He states that the reason they continue on their paths is because they can never reach equilibrium because of the way they are aranged. Doesn't this point to gravity? If I built one of the MT designs, say MT9, and added a power supply which is timed and coordinated by the movement of the weights, a...
by Deven
Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:04 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Bessler's Secret Force
Replies: 94
Views: 41843

re: Bessler's Secret Force

I have to disagree! Bessler never really said that there was a prime mover. I vaguely remember him saying in one of his MT drawings that it wouldn't work without the prime mover, but this is iffy in thinking that he meant a separate system. Perhaps his prime mover was simply the principle behind his...
by Deven
Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:51 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Bessler's Secret Force
Replies: 94
Views: 41843

re: Bessler's Secret Force

...on the contrary these weights are the essential parts and constitute perpetual motion itself; as from them is received the universal movement which they must exercise so long as they remain out of the centre of gravity;...
This one.
by Deven
Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:31 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Bessler's Secret Force
Replies: 94
Views: 41843

I have been thinking CFs for a while, but I'm starting to lean back towards gravity. Environmental could power a wheel, as it does in many situations already, but Bessler's statements that it was gravity that powered his machine can't be ignored!
by Deven
Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:56 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: WM2D
Replies: 228
Views: 95013

re: WM2D

A couple of quick questions;

I'm having some trouble getting the system center of balance to appear on my screen. I click the icon under view, and I still cannot see it. Any ideas how to fix this?

Also, is there a way to increase the internal limit when running a simulation?
by Deven
Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:37 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Site outage
Replies: 11
Views: 3753

Dear lord, did you guys all come back and post at once? Its going to take me hours to read all of this!
by Deven
Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:52 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Why Gravity wheels don't violate the laws of Physics
Replies: 458
Views: 87621

CF acts upon an object at any rotational speed. Jim is right about this, however, the rotational speed of the object wouldn't really matter, depending on what you are using as your centripetal force. Place a spring on the weights, and it will take more force to push them towards the outside. As for ...
by Deven
Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:03 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: the clues give it away
Replies: 122
Views: 28677

Re: re: the clues give it away

Conclusion: He appears to be indicating that many different types of OOB wheel principles can be bent to his will & employed once you add different structures to do the required lifting at the appropriate time. This one thing that Bessler wrote is why I do not believe it was OOB wheels. I think...
by Deven
Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:20 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Why Gravity wheels don't violate the laws of Physics
Replies: 458
Views: 87621

re: Why Gravity wheels don't violate the laws of Physics

Isn't weight the same as mass in a gravity field? On earth, yes you could say that mass and weight are the same. In any gravity feild, however, no. 1kg of weight on earth is equal to 1kg of mass anywhere. 1kg of weight on the moon, however, would probably weight about 6kg here, and the mass would s...
by Deven
Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:18 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Not very intelligent
Replies: 10
Views: 3654

Haha I think, evgwheel, why you often don't get an immediate answer is because it sometimes takes a little while to discern what you are getting at with the concept. The hard thing about it is that others don't always see things exactly how you do; everyone has this problem to some degree. Try descr...
by Deven
Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:23 am
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Why Gravity wheels don't violate the laws of Physics
Replies: 458
Views: 87621

re: Why Gravity wheels don't violate the laws of Physics

I have a thought;

If one could create a wheel that was completely frictionless, and completely elastic that had an overall system loss of energy in the gravitational field (or outside of it, even), energy would be destroyed. Ipso facto, energy could be created.