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any thoughts on this image? http://nsa33.casimages.com/img/2013/11/07/131107125729411914.jpg #6 can be clearly seen to contact with what is otherwise shown as being on the peripheral of the motion. However the earlier (further right) mechanism could never accomplish this because of the fixed guides ...

"The fact that it's still there is a hopeful sign."

Websites aren't exactly peer reviewed.

Ralph - so often the voice of reason!

Grimer, what will it mean about your observations if this thing turns out to be just another goose chase? Will you then do it correctly?

I contend that we do not need "time" to tell. The signs are all here short of tarring and feathering them. They never claimed that their model worked, they let you assume that it does. Plausible deniability established. They claim the model exists for "testing" but the fact that ...

Tarsier79 wrote:Why havent MIB broken into their HQ?

They never said it was a "working" model.

I wonder if these con-men didn't originally start out looking for an answer, but their only discovery was the gullibility of the populace. They feel as legitimate as Hollywood actors. Remember this guy?? : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Lazar

yeah, yeah, me too! It can only power a toy so far, but if I had enough money I could build one the size of a room that will do much more. What? You just want the small one? Oh no... can't give you that, but I'll send you a picture, here it is: http://blogbattery.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Monke...

If there were a working model then I'd say there is a reason to be optimistic. Do you know of a working model? Some fool and his money are quickly being parted here ... Charlatans can sell ice to Eskimos, but by their very nature will never come up with anything of practical value. .... For the reas...

Some fool and his money are quickly being parted here. If we were really clever we'd be talking about the best use of all of that scrap when they get done with it. Charlatans can sell ice to Eskimos, but by their very nature will never come up with anything of practical value. They are so practiced ...

Yes please, find out what they are really building there. You may find that the project being photographed and the claimed location are 2 different places. I still think there is merit to the theory that the convoluted device is something else entirely, perhaps a kind of assembly line automation.

Now that is a clever charlatan, realize that a powered device meant for a completely different purpose looks like a PM device. Take pictures of the build, and pretend you are about to win the race. Get lots of publicity and all it costs you is a few pictures. I wonder if when they connect the motor ...

Green dot to you nic, very good point. If they use a crane to lift up some real heavy weights and then let this thing unwind it could go a real long time. Raising other weights up and down could just create an over complicated clockwork that amounts to a falling weight in a clock, albeit much more e...

That's a clever one iacob, especially how the animation seems to show a purely horizontal movement of the mass as though the mass would actually change directions without drawing energy from the rotation. Sadly, height for width. If that motion were duplicated it would require that a tiny bit of hei...

Oops, yeah, thx, that's still very low considering the size. I don't mean that as a bad thing. Most of us have assumed that a working device would not produce huge output, but any energy at all would change physics forever. Rooting for 1W but doubt it.