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The attractive force of gravity permeates a bessler wheel, but it isn't an energy. If that attraction didn't occur through the sides of a bessler wheel, it wouldn't be able to turn the wheel at all. Since gravity isn't an energy, but a force between masses, it isn't a part of thermodynamic (mechanic...

Yes Richard, in a bessler wheel there is no transfer of mass. Hence the reason it is a closed thermodynamic system.
CoE ? what's that, coefficient of expansion?

Richard, no I wasn't trying to be argumentative. I'm trying to help others understand the meaning of open systems and closed systems in thermodynamics. If we are going to have a discussion about a possible perpetual motion machine driven only by gravity, then we must agree on the definitions of the ...

So a Bessler wheel exchanges nothing with it's environment then, Grimer? No energy or mass. That would be an isolated system by that definition; something that is not supposed to be possible because of, if nothing else, gravitational attraction.

John it seems you're confused about the definition of an open system versus a closed system. Open systems exchange energy and matter with their environment. Closed systems exchange only energy with their environment, but not matter. So a Bessler wheel is defined as a closed system; it doesn't exchan...