What should someone do with a solution?

[Clarkie]

If you don't patent someone else will and block you from giving it away.

Publishing on the internet will make sure everyone knows how it works but GE or Mitsubishi would spend millions filling a patent and defending it by going after anyone who builds a useful wheel.

They WILL find something patentable about how it works and lock it down.

GE would use MIT and pay them millions to find a magic bit to patent.

Please don't think its as simple as giving it away, not these days, the world is a different place to what it was when Faraday invented the electricity generator and refused to patent.

[Dwylbtzle]

but do you think there's ANY chance in hell this wouldn't be considered a "matter of national security"?
it certainly WOULD turn the world uside down
(AND sideways)
and if it gets past THAT do you think there's a snowball's chance in hiroshima it wouldn't be deemed "economically significant"?

every day i think about it
and learn more of this info about these laws
i think so less and less

so one can't give it away
and it can't be patented
wtf?
maybe one should just keep it a big secret and become a power generating company one's self
and sell the electricity cheaper than anyone else
hehehe

hey world
kiss my ass
is this some kinda feeble joke?
are we not men?
i don't think we have to take this

we just gotta figure out HOW not to
sheesh

hey--i originally just signed on merely to figure out something SIMPLE
like bessler's wheel
not how to untie the gordian frippin knot

[Silvertiger]

Call it a hydropower plant and build it next to a dam as a facade...just don't use any water and no one will be the wiser lol. :) Five years later let the cat out of the bag.

[Dwylbtzle]

Yeah!
something like THAT
i guess that's what you'd have to do
JEEEsus H tittyfucking christ on a crutch this pisses me off
doesn't this piss you off?

[Silvertiger]

Not really...Schrodinger did something similar with his cat a while back lol. :) History has a way of...coming back around...a lot like a wheel! :) Of course once he let it out no one could find it...but it's the principle of it that counts, right?

[jim_mich]

And this is why my plan is what it is...

A] First get something that works!!!

B] Take steps to insure the idea survives in case of calamity.

C] Define the principle or the reason why it works!

D] Design a simple cheap working POP (proof of principle) sample model.

E] (omitted by mistake)

F] Build as many of these models as money/time/reasoning suggest.

G] Plan Ad campaign, including literature, web space, documentation, etc.

H] Write patent applications for most major countries.

I] Prepare a list of names, addresses of who is to receive what.

J] Always continue research into increasing power output and alternate designs.

K] Load up on liability and life insurance.

L] When all is prepared, file patents, upload web site, mail plans, ship models, etc. Hit the media hard! Make a sensation! Be on the evening news worldwide.

Do what needs to be done to keep those in power from suppressing your invention. It is much harder to put the genie back into the bottle after everyone has seen it. They move slow. You must move fast. The window of opportunity is between when the PTO receives your application and when someone reviewing it realizes what your invention really does.

Just my humble opinion.

[Silvertiger]

I can't help but think about my first physics class: Law describes WHAT happens. Theory describes WHY. Do you think that once this thing is done we might have a new theory on our hands?

P.S. - I wanna know what item "E" is supposed to be lol. :)

[Dwylbtzle]

yeah
like said before
i think that idea sounds cool
in fact that replcates EXACTLY step by step just about what i had deided someone could do
except now i kinda think the idea of sending it into the government first MIGHT not shield one from prosecution
or RETRIBUTION
MAN!
jst the fact that bessler went INSANE
is the best evidence to me
that he wasn't kidding

and HE only had to worry about how to make any money without getting ripped off

NOW someone would have to worry about THAT age old concern
AND the whole MODRN ball of steaming cat puke one would have to deal with
with the government and oil companies (same thing)

[Dwylbtzle]

ooops--my post was answering jimmich

[Dwylbtzle]

P.S. - I wanna know what item "E" is supposed to be lol. :)

E is for EEEEEEEEagh this pisses me off!

[Dwylbtzle]

I've got it:
there's this guy i hate named tom
i could release it in his name
then the world would have it--and he'd be tortured and killed by the illuminatai...

yeah shit
but then he'd posthumously get the credit for saving the world...
oh well
a trade off i guess
talk about mixed feelings
sorta like when you find out yer bitch wife drove off a cliff
but it was in yer mercedes and you'd just made the last payment

[Silvertiger]

Anything is possible. After all, who would have dreamed that c wasn't constant until we saw it with our own eyes through our own telescopes and satellites? Perfect example right there. All it takes is several thousand observations from several thousand scientists to give them cause to scratch there scalps until it snows and rewrite some physics equations lol.

[getterdone]

If you don't patent someone else will and block you from giving it away.

Publishing on the internet will make sure everyone knows how it works but GE or Mitsubishi would spend millions filling a patent and defending it by going after anyone who builds a useful wheel.

They WILL find something patentable about how it works and lock it down.

GE would use MIT and pay them millions to find a magic bit to patent.

Please don't think its as simple as giving it away, not these days, the world is a different place to what it was when Faraday invented the electricity generator and refused to patent.

We're only get to dance on the blue marble for a short time Clarky, in the end all that's left of us is our names. Faraday will never be forgotten

And to Dwyldtzle, maybe you should grab a bowl of popcorn and watch this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEV5AFFc ... re=related

Then when your done , solve this thing, strap on a pair of nuts, and put it on the internet

[Dwylbtzle]

dude, i'm a girl

[Dwylbtzle]

just kidding (maybe)
i've gotta start my disinformation campaign as i prepare to go underground

start talkng about how i'm moving to hawaii
on my facebook page
as i really move to alaska etc