Georg Künstler's Ideas...

[Guest]

What does M represent

M*G*H=M*G*H* + Jonathan= POD !!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

[Jonathan]

Well I don't know what the hell that means. Anyway, I should ask, what does M and m represent, why are they different things? And to clarify for the stupid guest, I mean what do they represent, not what they mean, I know they are mass, but which mass? Also, I see what you are saying about time, but I don't understand why you are saying it. Given that it is a function of sin(wt) and therefore of w*t, and that w is the angular velocity, I don't see why you do not just call it a function of position. If w happens to be a function of time too, then one can see that w*t becomes w(t)*t, which one should recognise as the first antiderivative of angular velocity with respect to t, which one could just replace in the equation with O(t), where O is theta. So it is in fact a function of position.
Also, I have finished a version of the model and still don't get how it is supposed to get back on the lever to perpetuate the movement, or is it not supposed to, it is supposed to get back on later in conjugtion with the addition of other mechanisms? In the model I have constructed, the teeter toter rolls and one part gets onto a stable platform, taking itself off the lever. But the other part is still on the lever, and on the right side, so that side decends and the left part ascends, which Georg says will then lift the part that came off. What I don't understand is why he thinks it would do this as the moment the lever comes in contact with the part that is off, the part exerts its weight on it. However, the weight that is causing the lifting is still close to the center while the weight that is supposed to be lifted id still far from the center, so it will not lift, it just stops upon contact.

[Georg Künstler]

Maybe this makes it clearer,
that the left force is not equal to the right force. It is still the TT, but is able
to do periodical work when on a lever. The energy in TT itself is constant. But during move on the lever, it turns the lever up and down.

Best regards

Georg

[Jonathan]

That pretty much the same as the other. What does the spring do, and why? How do you get the left part back onto the lever, or is this supposed to be a one shot device that has to be reset?
Actually, it occurs to me now that I don't think this newer version will do things by itself, one weight falls while one rises, so there is no net torque to move the system, unless they are not at the same angle exactly, in which case it will move a little.
So where are you going with this?

[Georg Künstler]

more to think about, for thouse who are working with eccentric weights, and not with pendulums.
In which direction are the weights moving, rolling ? The weights, left and right shoud be cylinders, left side 2 kg, right side 3 kg with an other mass distribution. Right side should be 2 times 1,5 kg = 3 kg, mass is black.

We have an oscillation force on the right, and a constant force on the left.



Best regards

Georg

[Georg Künstler]

Cylindrical weights, wheel and not a wheel, three kingdoms ...
This is one element !!
Think about.

the future has begun

best regards

Georg.

[Oxygon]

thats very interesting... just may do it...

maybe...

(edit...)

I was brainstorming, its hard to tell... sometimes you would swear it might stall, but then maybe not? Someone should really test this...!

I like it...

Simple.

Hope it works.

I just see a possibilty... but, I am always tight lipped.

(edit...)

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[coylo]

So you have a segmented cylinder connected by three springs, thats great, but what does it do?

I've been looking back over some of your concepts. Maybe you are approaching the problem from a different perspective from me, and I applaud this, but I don't understand how your ideas apply to a self-sustaining wheel. Some of them seem incomplete and some of them are asking for a lot of.................um.......................divine intervention.
But don't let this get you down, your approach is quite innovative, and as always, you have been very generous in sharing.

[TommyK]

coylo,

You talkin to Georg?

[coylo]

You talkin to me, you talkin to me,
well there's no one else here talkin!

[Georg Künstler]

Let the segmented cylinder fall, fall against the wall in the big wheel inside, what will happen ?
Combine segmented cylinder with COG technic.
8 of the segmented cylinders where in the wheel. They act in pairs !!
All is well balanced. But the first tilt ... and you ever are out of balance.


the future has begun

Georg

[Oxygon]

Let the segmented cylinder fall, fall against the wall in the big wheel inside, what will happen ?
Combine segmented cylinder with COG technic.
8 of the segmented cylinders where in the wheel. They act in pairs !!
All is well balanced. But the first tilt ... and you ever are out of balance

Wait a minute...

Will not the segmented pieces remain in proximity to the axis regardless of their relative position to each other...?

Maybe I understand it wrong...

[Georg Künstler]

To all,
I will charge everyone 1 Euro per machine and 1 Eurocent per produced kwh for my developements. The developement will be shown on August without any comment.
Anyone who needs more information to understand will get it, on request.

VB's will have a contingent of 1000 machines free without any charge.

the future has begun

Georg

[Trev]

Hi Georg,
Are you saying you have had some success with this design?
What are VB's?

Trev.

[Sevich]

Hi Trev,

What are VB's

VB stands for VIRTUAL - BACKUPS

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