Another claim to a working device...

[raj]

This is definitely not the simple device that Bessler's carpenter boy could build.

Raj

[iacob alex]

It's possibly that , Rarenergia plays some pairs of "heavy points", so to obtain continuous unbalance due to gravity fall and inertia. With certains articulated mechanisms , you can obtain and use a diversity of trajectories ; www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8MOriH5QKc and here the (6:42 - 6:56 ) time frame . Maybe , some of them will perform that torque difference as a "self" motion...it's possible.

Al_ex

[Andyb]

Jacob alex i agree i too wish them all the success .

[iacob alex]

.....as a gravity wheel , unfolded on a crankshaft , seems to be ,no more that...a very old "claim" . The "basics" you can find , at :

www.evert.de/eft784e.htm

I suppose the people of this forum,have a better eye for this...enlarged Bessler's wheel version , simply a particular form of an articulated mechanisms...

Al_ex

[Reticon]

That's a clever one iacob, especially how the animation seems to show a purely horizontal movement of the mass as though the mass would actually change directions without drawing energy from the rotation. Sadly, height for width. If that motion were duplicated it would require that a tiny bit of height be sacrificed to cause the mass to shift toward the center. Conveniently at exactly the ratio that would render the new position a wash if he's lucky. If the horizontal motion were powered by a spring one could probably arrange such a thing that would run for a very long time if the spring could be rationed, like say, inside of specially designed weights. Such a thing could even be made to work in both directions as well.

[murilo]

.....as a gravity wheel , unfolded on a crankshaft , seems to be ,no more that...a very old "claim" . The "basics" you can find , at :

www.evert.de/eft784e.htm

I suppose the people of this forum,have a better eye for this...enlarged Bessler's wheel version , simply a particular form of an articulated mechanisms...

Al_ex

This present build is very similar to those OIL PUMP set one can see at oil fields, where eccentric mass is applied.

Possibly some trick will be tried with the use of that curved arch and resonant masses under KE.

[nicbordeaux]

There is going to one whole load of Potential Energy due to height position of the components at start of cycle, and given the number of components with great mass, the gizmo should run for a while and be able to drive some small generator before all the mass has lost all of it's useful height.

[Reticon]

Green dot to you nic, very good point. If they use a crane to lift up some real heavy weights and then let this thing unwind it could go a real long time. Raising other weights up and down could just create an over complicated clockwork that amounts to a falling weight in a clock, albeit much more entertaining.

[Tarsier79]

Looks to me like they have their mechanisms equidistant around the crank. This should lead to a balanced mechanism. There will be a whole heap of stress everywhere, and if one arm lets go things will get interesting.

[Dwylbtzle]

i can't say either way about the "forthcoming" device

all that hits me, right off, is that i can understand someone just blabbing--thinking he's giving it away--
and i can understand someone being afraid to just blab it
and i can see the scenario where someone feels he's just SOO damn close--that even though he doesn't really quite HAVE it--he's SURE he does
and WILL prove it very soon
so he gets all excited

but i can't understand someone saying "we DEFINATELY DO have it and it'll be out this fall--we've already proven it--and we have a real working model--and we're releasing it this fall!!! YEA!"

huh?
wotzup with that?

seems like you are giving yourself the worst of both worlds
if it fails you got egg on yer face
and if it's real you've given all the shadowy evil (possible) conspiratorial global vampires (that some people are convinced are out there trying to suppress everything) plenty of time to thwart you in some way
or rip you off
or assassinate you
etc etc etc
throw you in jail...slap a "national security" injunction on you
wartever...
cart your lab and files off--like they did to tesla...
you know; all the things you hear

seems a bit thick
lol

[iacob alex]

.....appears to display a new semicircular spare part ( black colour... ) , you can see at www.Rarenergia.com.br ("foto oficial No35" /24-05-2013).

The same shape ,playing as "heavy points" , you can find if you take a look at http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Gravity_Motors and search :"Patents"/gravity powered rotational machine and method (2008),especially Fig.12.

The difference is the trajectories of these "heavy points" face to fulcrum/crankshaft (around or one-sided ) , intended to use the gravity unbalance.

Al_ex

[eccentrically1]

more parts added

[Furcurequs]

I believe that picture was one of two that were posted 11 days ago. I've not seen anything new since then.

Dwayne

[Dwylbtzle]

wow!--impressive!
well, if that bitch don't work, she'll certainly take the ribbon for ultimate flibbertigibbit widget flipper!
damn!

nice color, too--always liked that color

so... they start selling them this fall?

[Art]

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Hi ecce.1 - good post !

Its good to have some of these pictures locked into our archives here because I would guess that a commercial website like Rarenergia’s will be subject to changes in the future and these pictures may not be available eg if one of the big companies producing wind turbines decides to make a take over bid so they can suppress the technology then the website may be the first to go ! : )

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Hi iacob ,

The only reason I can figure out for the semicircular forms is to ‘solidify ‘ the beams radiating from the ‘hub’ and to act as a possible guard for the ‘drive beam ’ connecting to the crank .

I’m guessing that there will be another connecting beam added yet , from that little ‘pivot stub’ on the beam just below the semicircular form ( in addition to the large connecting beam already being added to the left of the structure ) . If this is the case , it will be interesting to see how these two beams interact through what looks like the two anchoring locations on the left . Some type of lever system possibly ?

I think we are going to see a quite complicated action of the weight of the hub and beams assembly on that huge crankshaft .

Its nice that they are being so obscure so clearly , however somebody should give them a call and tell them its time for another photo ! They could be told that they can pre-release to us safely - that we havn’t a clue whats going on , and probably won’t until its all went anyway ! - they can trust us : )


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