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murilo:
"I really don't like this... they started to improvise parts.
I'm sorry for this, truly!"

It most likely isn't any improvised part of the machine. It looks to me more like a adjustable part used for assembling of the machine arms that now are in various possitons.
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They are making revisions to the design which would indicate something isn't working as planned.
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"June 10th 2013 - Starting the construction in Gilman - Illinois - USA (official picture nº01):"

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zoelra wrote:They are making revisions to the design which would indicate something isn't working as planned.
I agree with you!
Revisions are much proper and elegant!
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Post by eccentrically1 »

Does anyone live around Gilman?
those are big storage tanks for something in the background.
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It's easier and cheaper to use Google Maps.
Gilman IL is about 278 miles from me, or about 4-1/2 hour drive.
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Incobrasa Industries process soybeans into oil.

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I actually live a few hours (driving time) from there and plan on taking a trip there as soon as I get a chance.
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Yes please, find out what they are really building there. You may find that the project being photographed and the claimed location are 2 different places. I still think there is merit to the theory that the convoluted device is something else entirely, perhaps a kind of assembly line automation.
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The above picture labeled "Official Picture No.01" was taken at the Incobrasa Industries soybean processing plant outside of Gilman IL. Google maps shows the buildings and oil vat tanks that can be seen in the background. In my picture posted above, I drew the viewing angle of the camera as it took the picture. Some of the buildings have distinctive shapes that can be seen in both pictures.

Incobrasa Industries would not be building any assembly line machines. They would most likely be building some sort of soybean processing equipment, or some machine that supports the rest of their facility. Maybe they are going to press soybean meal into compressed cubes? The perpetual motion label might be one of their engineer's idea of playing a joke.
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Local release of information regarding the Gilman generator.

http://wglt.org/wireready/news/2013/02/ ... 5637.shtml
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If this is being built in Gilman IL then I would expect it to be published in English:

"ENGINE fed exclusively by the gravity with power generator,"

This does not make sense to me! Why the word "the" gravity? Is there more than one type and this is specific? If it is with power from a generator and gravity, why not say so?

"With power generator"; A generator produces electrical power, but it needs a working force to turn it, is this the power they speak of.

If it is PM, why not say: An engine fed exclusively by gravity turning a generator producing power?

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That picture is hosted on the Brazilian website, though, and so it's probably just an awkward translation from the Portugese - since most likely the person doing the captioning is in Brazil.

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rlortie wrote:...
"ENGINE fed exclusively by the gravity with power generator,"

This does not make sense to me! Why the word "the" gravity? Is there more than one type ...
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Yep, there's two types interestingly enough.
Newtonian Gravity and Ersatz (replacement) Gravity.

If the machine works it will be using both types of gravity as does Uncle's toy.
Both NG and EG generated going down and the EG used to get it back up again.

Free energy is achieved when EG>NG so I suppose one can say that Jim's
idée fixe about CF is almost justified - except of course that one needs both.

Compare to Carnot where one needs both pressure and temperature
independent variables.

Of course, as Furcurequs points out, the use of "the" above comes from an inadequate command of
English, not any deep understanding of the variables involved.
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Are the angled plates guides to correct for any lateral sway in the long levers? If so, this could indicate the motor turns counter clockwise.
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