Veljko Mikovics device, and some ideas

[Gregory]

I think the most important thing about Mr. Milkovic's device is the independence of the input from the output. If you stop the hammer the pendulum keeps swinging. Can give you interesting ideas about the theory of action - reaction, back torque, and reaction forces. Plan them out of the design... if you find a good way for that.

[iacob alex]

Hi !

This "independence of the input from the output" can be an evidence that we have an energy "flow"?

If so,we have one problem only:the attachment,joining...not the feed-back.

All the Bests! / Alex

[iacob alex]

Hi !
The comments of Prof Milkovic are so interesting.

We are in the presence of an one way transfer power mechanism,as an inertial balance beam.
The base/main fulcrum ,must be stable,a rigid structure in a direct connection with the inertial space.
Gravity and inertia keeps it moving.
We must avoid dissipation of the energy.
The research is the only way to learn something.

To run experiments,as Brian Berrett,is the most important method,manner.

All the Bests! / Alex

[mickegg]

I'm still not sure about this device......

The swinging pendulum has to aquire a certain amplitude before the
hammer will strike the anvil.

As the hammer moves only a small distance is this not simply a
force x distance model?

Why has a feedback to the pendulum not been accomplished?

Regards

Mick

[bluesgtr44]

Why has a feedback to the pendulum not been accomplished?

There is little doubt in my mind that it has been tried...and probably in many ways. This is not that complicated of a set-up and there has been more than ample time to achieve this....IMHO, they couldn't achieve it.

It is out now to verify their claim on this aspect of this particular effect for reasons we can all understand. If someone else can solve the output issue that is evident....they still started it all....and now have a valid claim to certain aspects of it. Again, just an opinion.


Steve

[pstroud]

This is not that complicated of a set-up and there has been more than ample time to achieve this....IMHO, they couldn't achieve it.

Steve, It seems possible if his device has 12 times more output than the input power to run it. However, you are right that he has had more than ample time to achieve it. His website show a lot on perpetual motion. He has been very interested in perpetual motion and surely he has thought of it and tried it. I would just love to know why it didn't work.

Preston.

[Kirk]

http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Milkovi ... _Generator

These guys claim to demonstrate it. Unfortunately havent had time at the moment to peruse.

[Gravmaster2000]

'Brian Berrett has invented a generator using Milkovic's device which is well worth checking out. Description and photos are at

http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Milkovi ... _Generator


Jeff L.'

First thing I see- get the coils closer to the magnets! you will need less power for the same 'kick'!!!
One thing comes to mind-perhaps an unbalanced, spinning wheel on one side controlling weights on the other side of a big wheel?

[iacob alex]

.....this time from Hungary (Zsakf0s ,2011) , adds a connecting rod and an eccentered mass , at :

www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAUkEHPjuZA

It's an interesting solution to swing a pendulum with a mobile fulcrum ,so to "pump" the rotation of an eccentered mass.

Has if a better efficiency than the starting arrangement (Milkovic) ?

This is a "reverse" motion of an oil pump jack , as at :

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Pump_jack.gif

Remains the fact that we can play lever with a pendulum differently...

Al_ex

[Grimer]

You certainly manage to drag up some classic threads from the distant past, Alex.

I think the probable solution lies in the beam pivot. If one could use something like a double pivot so that it rested on one when the beam swings clockwise and the other when it swings counter-clockwise then one might get some feedback from the weight to the pendulum.

One would need to carry out precise measurements to investigate the variables.

[rlortie]

I wish to introduce the forum to Ronald Pugh, a resident of British Columbia. Ron is a friend of mine and is often called upon as a consultant and ghost associate of 'Arrache'. A man of many talents, and whatever his opinion, you can rest assured that he does not speak unless he has objective proof to back it.

http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/Me ... nt_Mk5.pdf

Ralph

[rlortie]

I add to the above post:

Ron has a YouTube account aka "rohndoe" with 25 of his own videos plus a great number of others that he indulges in.

If you have a YouTube account I highly recommend adding him to your subscription. You will find a number of films in the perpetual motion category.

Ralph

[justsomeone]

So someone who submits designs to you Ralph may be viewed by some " ghost associate ". Sounds secure to me......

[rlortie]

Ron is not a member of 'Arrache' and he does not view or even aware of submitted designs. The use of "ghost" was probably not the best terminology to use.

Ron is simply an acquaintance I met on a now obsolete forum over a decade ago. We found that we had a few things in common and have been communicating since.

Why are you always the first to question the integrity of 'Arrache'? There currently is no submittable s on the docket and I am working alone on yard and house maintenance. I am waiting on arrival of a shipment of machinable plastic for a build of my own design.

There is no activity within 'Arrache' and the Gravity Solution Group forum is currently mothballed.

Ralph

[justsomeone]

Ralph, you stated he is OFTEN called upon as a consultant and ghost associate of Arrache. This leaves the impression that he was consulting on submitted designs. Does it not?

I don't have an issue with your integrity just your business practice. I think it would be foolish to submit a design for review without some sort of written agreement. But that's just me.

Good luck with your build.