Big brother is watching...

[jim_mich]

I was sent an email from here on the forum.
It contained Bessler's 300 year old German text and the translation into English.
This was for the most part simply a copy of what had been posted on the forum.

But this caused a problem with the US government snoopers that scan all email.
The email was delayed for almost three hours while the snoopers tried to decipher the text.
It took 2 hours, 53 minutes, and 36 seconds to be delivered.
The email was sent from the forum server address inside the USA to my email address inside the USA.

Partial data from the Header of 1st email sent to me from the Bessler forum:
(qmail 5555 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2013 19:21:46 -0000
for <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.net>; 26 Jun 2013 19:21:46 -0000
for <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.net>; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 15:21:46 -0400 (EDT)
for xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.net; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 11:28:10 -0500

Partial data from the Header of 2nd email sent to me from the Bessler forum:
(qmail 12755 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2013 17:09:16 -0000
for <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.net>; 26 Jun 2013 17:09:16 -0000
for <xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.net>; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 13:09:15 -0400 (EDT)
for xxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.net; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 12:09:15 -0500

Note that the 2nd email arrived first, in about 1 second, while the 1st email took almost three hours and arrived hours after the 2nd email.

That 300 year old German text is hard enough to translate. Maybe I should simply ask the government snoops to do the translating?

[rlortie]

OK, Jim, you have me scratching my head!

I left my computer on today, but did not frequent it. This evening when I set down to catch up on forum gossip, I found that my machine was in "Blue screen error"...

What you may ask is relevant about this! My ISP mail server is "qmail"

Ralph

[AB Hammer]

I just spent 3 hours deleting programs attached to my printer program. Now my printer is not going off and on now. I was starting to believe it was possessed. Maybe it was by Big Brother. I have been a bit ill after my sinus operation and got an infection. That is why I have been on the forum so much over the last few days.

[rasselasss]

What is it with you guys,do you think Security Services of Countries wave a magic wand to catch Terrorists,paedo's,perverts etc....no,they use technology thats out there to monitor and TRY to stop atrocities like 9/11 happen....anyone can look inside my computer,e-mail whatever,i have nothing to hide and if it keeps my family and friends safe ,who cares...People seem to be paranoid about this ,even here we use the latest Technology to achieve what we do,i think it was Riortie who stated he used I.P.address's to look at certain perpective clients where they lived to get an idea of "bona fides"and who can blame him if he's to invest money on a project....As for Patents i could list many items made in China,Russia and other places who don't take a blind bit of notice of Patenting laws and sell their products in the "west"usually 1/4 the price and just as serviceable ,Remember we vote Govt's in to power ,all agencies are answerable to Govt. so who's to blame if your not happy ..but yourself........off now to hide below a rock...

[AB Hammer]

rasselasss

Careful, You may have just qualified yourself as a sheeple. I remember when people where free and the constitution was strong. I don't have anything illegal to hide but in the world of thieves my ideas are my ideas. It is up to each individual to show on their own time, but have a disclosure clause in case you die, to post what you have if there is no one to take over. That is to not loose what you have learned to go to the grave.

I am not calling you a sheeple, please don't think so. I am just saying some of what you said may make people think so. I believe in free will and no one has the right to take that away.

Alan

[rasselasss]

Alan,trust me i have strong principles on freedom of speech and movement,but i'm not talking about Stasi or K.G.B. organisations here ,most here are on about Democratic elected Govt's home security,i'll give an instance in the U.K. a week or so ago,a terrorist was convicted for downloading a bomb making manual,i suppose with the amount of"traffic"texts,e-mails and such they use random keywords etc.to have a peek ,there is bound to be infringements of innocent mail etc. but using a broad brush how can they cherrypick and be honest whats the alternative. to stop these buggers...i know what i choose...P.S. whats a sheepie...Good Luck....Just to add in reply to Alan,by downloading he drew attention and after searching they found substances etc. from what i gather he was "off the radar"an illegal immigrant and had"previous"with terrorist orgs.where he lived....

[jim_mich]

Sheeple are people who blindly follow along like sheep who follow the rest of the flock. That is how sheep act. Sheep pastures are soon crisscrossed with sheep paths where each sheep follows the sheep in front and the front sheep follows the path. Sheep seldom walk their own path. That's just how sheep are.

[AB Hammer]

rasselasss

Think for a moment. Convicted for downloading a bomb making manual. Was there anything else? If that makes someone a terrorist, a lot of people in the US would be terrorist just because they where curious. Back in the past there where many books that where out like the anarchist handbook that dealt with home made explosives as well. I have seen this book some 30 years ago and would not want to do anything it says. So I never picked on up either. But people have the freedom to know, but the law prohibits the use of such knowledge for it is just to dangerous. Lets not get back to the days of McCarthyism for a lot of innocence gets hurt and destroyed. People today are getting hurt for the use of a word that one race uses day in and day out and someone not of that race used it some 30 years ago and now is under attack. If there is a banned word it is banned for everyone or it is an attack of free speech in the worst way. It has become a word of control for one race to control another.

Alan

[murilo]

There are a lot of stuffs that are more than normal for a country in war!
Not a problem, since your debt is nothing.

BTW, a great wave of surveillance can also be kind of merchandising and promotion, in order to get people comfortable and forgetting one or other past fails... 8(

Funny is that two of those 'xxx' addresses are in blue and 'connected'.

[getterdone]

On the news yesterday they said that a 44 year old American was sentenced to 14 years in prison for writing on the sidewalk with chalk during the occupy Wall Street protest.

Is that justice ,or abuse of power ?

When reporters get put on a DHS watchlist for writing an article criticizing the government, is that justice?

Chris Hedges, a Pulitzer prize winning reporter, says that his international phone calls are being routinely tapped, ever since his opposition to the Irak war.

Over 1000 drone stikes, since Obama took office. One of them targeted and killed a 16 year old American in Yemen, who had not been charged with anything

This post could go on , but I think you get the point

[getterdone]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhZk8ronces

[Dwylbtzle]

at least you tied the bastards up for a FEW hours
and maybe some gov spook's consciousness was raised a tiny bit

good job

************************************
Johny's in the basement Mixing up the medicine
I'm on the pavement Thinking about the government
The man in the trench coat Badge out, laid off
Says he's got a bad cough Wants to get it paid off
Look out kid It's somethin' you did
God knows when But you're doin' it again
You better duck down the alley way Lookin' for a new friend
The man in the coon-skip cap In the big pen
Wants eleven dollar bills
You only got ten.

Maggie comes fleet foot
Face full of black soot
Talkin' that the heat put
Plants in the bed but
The phone's tapped anyway
Maggie says that many say
They must bust in early May
Orders from the DA
Look out kid
Don't matter what you did
Walk on your tip toes
Don't try, 'No Doz'
Better stay away from those
That carry around a fire hose
Keep a clean nose
Watch the plain clothes
You don't need a weather man
To know which way the wind blows.

Get sick, get well
Hang around an ink well
Ring bell, hard to tell
If anything is goin' to sell
Try hard, get barred
Get back, write Braille
Get jailed, jump bail Join the army, if you fail
Look out kid
You're gonna get hit
By users, cheaters
Six-time losers
Hang around the theaters
Girl by the whirlpool
Lookin' for a new fool
Don't follow leaders
Watch the parkin' meters.

Ah get born, keep warm
Short pants, romance, learn to dance
Get dressed, get blessed
Try to be a success
Please her, please him, buy gifts
Don't steal, don't lift
Twenty years of schoolin'
And they put you on the day shift
Look out kid
They keep it all hid
Better jump down a manhole
Light yourself a candle
Don't wear sandals
Try to avoid the scandal
Don't wanna be a bum
You better chew gum
The pump don't work
'Cause the vandals took the handle.

[rasselasss]

You're full of surprises Dwy....Brilliant!

[Dwylbtzle]

thanks, but i didn't write it
...some guy named zimmerman--who changed his name to mean "9th wave", in welsh: (dylan)

the "Weather Underground" took their name from one of those lines

i think i got one line wrong:
i believe it should actually read:
"don't wear sandles: you can't afford the scandal"

anyway
that other thread i did provides a solution:

ixquick.com

startpage.com

startmail.com

you can use the search engines--and they use google
but first they have you go thru them
then they do the google search
give you the results
and then all that info gets erased from THEIR servers
so no-one can ever come back and see what kinda porno you been lookin at
lol
also--you can have encrypted email that would take them all their resources huge amts of time to crack
not sayin they absolutely couldn't do it
but it has to be really worth it for them to bother with yer little emails

jump down a manhole
light yerself a candle

if bessler had had this stuff
he wouldn't have had to hide alchemical formulas in tiny parts of diagrams involving impossible gravity wheels
but that DID work for him
(they never hanged him)

"Bessler! I heard you was hung!"
"Well, you heard right."

[Dwylbtzle]

You're full of surprises Dwy....Brilliant!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcm0rG8EKXI
i guess if a person were 40, now
this song woulda already been 10 years old when they were born
if that doesn't work
here's every version on earf:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... sick+blues

you want the one with the skinny fuzzy haired kid from new york peeling off the lyrics signs