How Difficult can it be?

[rlortie]

we each are endowed with various powers of observation, ones aptitude and empirical skills will bias such observations.

I do not see any #777 or 772, what I do see is three attached leather straps to which a metal rod can be placed for two men (likely on each end) to lift the water box for transport.

Ralph

[John Collins]

It's the letter 'm'. See my webpage at
http://www.theorffyreuscode.com/html/water_wheel.html for my findings.

JC

[Furcurequs]

...lol

I guess it pays to sometimes not look at things too closely.

So, when we back off a bit to see the big picture and perhaps things in their proper perspective and context, the "worm" (okay, or "772" or "777" or "leather straps") does morph back into the "m" which then doesn't really look all that out of place there with the "k", "l", "n", "o" and "p".

..haha

Dwayne

[rasselasss]

Really i would look more at the"mechanical"content(how it works) ....i would go with Riortie's statement on the matter..the 2 d effect of the "drawn" handles more a part it than an "add on"....stuff like that was never an issue with me but i did find it strange always the alphabetical letters more like "modern english"in the drawings than the written script in the the printing in adjoining books ...here's a link i looked at when having a "foray"into it ....not knowing the language ,it was a diversion to what i was at,i let it go..

[rasselasss]

http://www.beerstein.net/articles/alpha.htm

[jim_mich]

It is the letter 'm' according to the legend for the image...

m. Water leaves chute and enters container.

As far as I can see, this is the only letter that is printed as negative, that is it is white surrounded by a background of black ink.

We all see things from different perspectives. Usually there is only one correct perspective meant by the author. In this case it is obviously and simply the letter 'm' shown as white on a dark background, and indicates as Bessler says.

[AB Hammer]

Thank You jim_mitch

This has turned into a nice experiment. From the blown up picture jim_mitch posted it had the 772 look but when moved back it had the M look. As for a handle? even though it would be in one possible correct place. It has no real resemblance to a handle or loop for a rod or pole due to there is no mount shown or a completed loop in the design.

This could also tell how someone can look at a mechanism and still not be able to duplicate it or fully understand it.

[rasselasss]

Yip! optical illusion Alan,as the Bodger said"i should have looked at the manual first"......When i first looked at the drawing the part drawing of the opening page on the link which is very well drawn,everything "symnetrical"my eyes were drawn to number 2 (makes the wheel look "wobbly"(buckled)and wondered why with everything else ,so well drew......i dismissed it as there is nothing perfect...then you look again ..the page is not flat ..slight fold....optical illusion again..

[jim_mich]

We often see what we want to see.

A common optical illusion is when people look at my forum handle of jim_mich they see jim_mitch. Their brain tries to see a persons name rather than my home state of Michigan, which for many years was abbreviated as Mich, until the US post office decided to assign all states two letter abbreviations, and so now I live in MI.

As a side note, the shape of the 'M' and the colors of the logo I use as a signature are those of the University of Michigan.





PS. The University of Michigan jeloiusly guards their 'M' logo. So out of respect, I used blue on yellow instead of yellow on blue. And technically, the yellow color is considered as 'maze', the color of corn, and the blue is 'Azure Blue'.

[AB Hammer]

Sorry Jim, I did it again.

Something funny is my father name is Milton and was call Mitch for short. So I guess that makes me a Son of a Mitch. LOL

[rasselasss]

Many here, follow Bessler's clues/codes,many others "close the book"with a "been there,done that attitude."..this or that way "can't be done"and resign their thoughts,as Jim Mich said "we see only what we want to see" and so with "tunnel vision"persue it to a conclusion that convinces thats not the way to go ,i suppose its the way we are ,our mindset closes down to any other possibility that will deliver the "goods"..................This image (003) is of a decorative escapement movement ...the pallets/dragon teeth wheel on the "dial face"AKA the Breguet escapement .....what is interesting is,when the clock is fully wound and the pallets precisely"set up"the movement is a "self starter"....well known by clock repairers and makers...........Now you ask "Whats this daft Ulsterman on about"......I then turn the image( 004) 90 degrees and you get an idea of where this is going in relation to the Sketch in page 2 of this thread ........NOTE... This is not the solution but will start you on the journey ...

[rasselasss]

Next we look at the "old fashioned"Balance Scales (plates hung on chains each side of a bridge ..pivot(fulcrum) in centre type).....if we place equal weights on each side(plates).....we know how frustrating it can be "waiting for the oscillation to cease........then after a while the scales are in perfect balance...........normal phenomenon,nothing unusual about that.........but wait a minute ...that up/down movement that's an equal weight raising an equal weight ..... so starting again ...NOW if we place an equal weight on one side(plate)and drop the other equal weight on from say a distance of 2-4 inches height onto the other side(plate)...we Get an alarming even chaotic up/down movement until balance.........so does this give us a "Window of Opportunity".....how can we make use of this......Hmmm ......NOTE...this is not the solution but worthy of thought as you continue on this journey.......Now your Bags are packed ...Wake up and "smell the coffee"....don't let Lethargy rule....Good Luck..

[Fletcher]

Your thoughts reminded me of something I was thinking about last week - when I first came across the Bessler mystery from a John Collins article in Nexus magazine about 18 years ago I noted upon further reading that some references said that JB was a 'clock maker' - I thought that was interesting - I've since seen it repeated from time to time [can't remember where now] but afaik JB never mentions that particular 'trade or skill' in his own writings ? - this would be 'odd' if he was in fact trained & skilled in the art of watch making & repairs or even an interest ? - and then we have the flag stone above the arch of his house in his home town with a sprocket wheel IIRC ?

Does anyone have any reference that can shed light on this as being one of JB's legitimate rather than anecdotal many hobby's, interests, skills or occupations ?

[jim_mich]

This is the only reference by Bessler concerning the making of clocks or watches by Bessler...

Unfortunately I eventually lost it when, on board a ship, I fell seriously ill, and some of the crew threw it overboard with some of my other belongings. I made a few pocket-watches and other such trinkets to earn a bit of money - who could have been richer than I!

[Fletcher]

Thanks jim_mich - I just read the hard copy sections after your prompt to refresh my memory - he must have been skilled to consider making a couple of pocket watches trinkets, let alone have the materials etc.