Bellows Build

[Jim Williams]

I'm tired of the fight

www.google.com/patents/us3200421

[smith66]

jim w.,
what does the aquaplane have to do with Bessler's wheel and what I'm pursuing ?
Nothing that I can tell which is the same thing with ab hammer and whatever builds ne might have done.
but as ab hammer posted, inventor's should not make their work known and you are cevending him.
I guess the 2 of you like giving me shit but the only mistake I made was in thinking that since I am pursuing an understanding of what Bessler knew was tbat a forum named after him might be the right place to make such work known,
It isn't and I admit to being wrong about that.
I guess I'll have to be satisfied with impressing a female friend.

[AB Hammer]

I'm tired of the fight

www.google.com/patents/us3200421

Nice patent Jim Williams. It looks like it could be a lot of fun.

What Lindgaard don't understand is you have done work and invented things. Each thing we build that has our name on it is an earthly form of immortality. I have thousands of pieces of armor with my name/mark on it. and each person who uses your invention will have a part of you in that work.

Lindgaard

You need to understand that action speaks louder than words. Doers have already proven themselves and have no real need to keep proving themselves. What completed thing can you show?

[smith66]

ab hammer,
why don't you show where the builds you claim that you have done and jim w's patent have something to do with Bessler ?
And besides, am more concerned about what my friend thinks of me. not sure but you just don't do anything for me.
still, you did say it's a fool who shows there work, the reason you don't.

am tired of being belittled for working openly when I am the only person that I know of who has built any of Bessler's drawings.

[AB Hammer]

smith66 wrote

ab hammer,
why don't you show where the builds you claim that you have done and jim w's patent have something to do with Bessler ?
And besides, am more concerned about what my friend thinks of me. not sure but you just don't do anything for me.
still, you did say it's a fool who shows there work, the reason you don't.

am tired of being belittled for working openly when I am the only person that I know of who has built any of Bessler's drawings.

Lindgaard !!!

Here is my MT1 Where is yours? Or did you skip the beginning? LOL


http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/downl ... er=user_id


Bessler shows the MTs to show what has been done and that don't work, or did you miss that part?

OH here is one where I mixed mt18 and mt19 together to see what might happen. OH yes it is a youtube video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFtWzl2BeyA


What gets me is you think you are the only one. LMAO!!!

[Jim Williams]

[quote][quote]II wonder if your build may be similar to the enclosed patented device, particularly the third drawing near the bottom of the page?

I think it is a shame this inventor bothered to realize a patent on an invention that doesn't work.

www.google.com/patents/us3412482

Jim W.

[quote]

[quote]The enclosed patent is well known on this board.

www.google.co/patents/us3934964

It also uses weights to shift the difference between containers full of water and ones full of air. What makes it different is the connecting hoses allowing pressures to balance between containers.

Imagine placing an invention of either Kusmer or Diamond constructed small enough to be placed in a transparent sided vat of some kind, like some large aquarium. Now imagine that vat has been set up in the middle of the desert, filled with water, the device located in it, and clearly visible to someone standing beside the vat and the device. Now imagine that the device is rotating in the vat. If it can be caused to rotate, then it should potentially rotate forever? Where is the energy coming from to cause it to cause that rotation?

Imagine you are a mile away from the transparent vat, and you can still see the device rotating continuously. Where is the energy coming from?

That's the question I asked me. I have yet to answer it.

Jim W.



Somehow I got off topic

[smith66]

alan,
what is wrong is that you and jim williams are talking to me like I am a small child.
If the two of you did not think I had something, you wouldn't be spending so much time and effort trying to prove to me that either of you might know something. That has gotten old.
I think that is funny because I know what I have and where I am going with it.

[Jim Williams]

Alan:

Entirely correct! Everyone who so much as ever looks at my patent will have a part of me.

When my patent expired in 1982, everyone came to own something of mine for themselves, free and clear; because I wanted it for myself. That's not such a bad feeling either.

Jim W.

[smith66]

jim w.,
How much money did you make off of your invention/patent ?
I take it that you made as much as ab hammer did from his which is nothing.
If either of you had profited from any of your inventions, then my working on Bessler's wheel would not be a concern to either of you because you would have profited from your inventions.

p.s., Bessler's wheel is not my invention and therefore is not something I could legally own.
And according to U.S. laws, any working build is something that Germany could claim ownership of under existing antiquity laws.

[Jim Williams]

"From Museum of Unworkable Devices"

Buoyant Wheels and Belts


This seductive idea has been deluding inventors for nearly two centuries. The chain of buckets operates underwater. Each "bucket" is a piston with a heavy weight, which can move to compress or expand the volume inside. It does this without leaking air or water, of course, we provide perfect frictionless seals. The air in each piston communicates with that in the opposite piston through air hoses.
Here's a simpler-looking device operating on the same principle. It also operates underwater. The wheel has bellows with lead weights attached. The air in all bellows is shared through tubes in the eight arms to a chamber in the hub.

The inventor remembers Archimedes' principle from high school physics. It says that when a body is immersed in liquid the liquid exerts and upward buoyant force on that body of size equal to the liquid the body displaces." The "displaced" liquid is simply a volume of liquid equal to the volume of the body.





So in these devices, the weights act to reduce the air volume in the pistons or bellows on one side of the axle, increasing the volume in those on the other side of the axle. Therefore the pistons or bellows on the side with increased volume experiences larger buoyant forces than those on the other side of the wheel. Therefore both of these devices should turn counterclockwise.

The buoyant forces on the lead weights are all the same wherever the weights happen to be. The buoyant forces on the cylinders, bellows and other parts of the system clearly balance. These arguments are very seductive to lead one to think these devices will turn continually.(continued)

[Jim Williams]

The US Patent Office didn't exist in 1712. If it did, assume for a moment Bessler could have obtained a patent. That patent would have expired no later than 1732, when Bessler's right to exclude others to his invention would have also expired. Everyone would have had the same rights to the wheel as Bessler once had exclusively, including possessing, making, using and selling.

I can't make any sense out of Germany owning the invention because of antiquity laws. Perhaps they could claim to own the various wheels Bessler built himself; but they couldn't claim the invention. That's like the Netherlands claiming they own all rights to the windmill, or whatever. When you buy a windmill, you own it. If you own one of my aquaplanes, you own it all, and all rights to it, although it is still my invention. Get it?

I hope my book sells more than my invention, but you are confused if you think only obtaining a utility patent isn't a success. Perhaps it is you who is doing the thinking the reason you are still here is because you aren't, how should I put it? Successful.

[justsomeone]

Jim L. You are extremely ignorant about patents! You are making a fool of yourself.

Jim You mentioned that your colon was pretty much tied in knots. I hope everyone will give you a break for acting like a constipated asshole!

[AB Hammer]

alan,
what is wrong is that you and jim williams are talking to me like I am a small child.
If the two of you did not think I had something, you wouldn't be spending so much time and effort trying to prove to me that either of you might know something. That has gotten old.
I think that is funny because I know what I have and where I am going with it.

LMAO Lindgaard

I also feed stray puppies, cats, birds, and remove turtles form the road as well.

You still haven't shown any completed builds. We are waiting.

[smith66]

@justnobody,
The on
y way I am making an ass of myself is by posting in a forum wbere credibilty is more important than fact.

@jim_w., go ahead and patent Bessler's wheel. half the people who post in here would.
and while you are at it, sell models of the London Bridge, Big Ben, the Leaning Tower of Pisa, the Eiffel Tower, the Brooklynn Bridge, Lincoln Memorial and the Washington Monument.
Those things can not be patented and justnobody and ab hammer are willing to be your business partners.
If you and your friends do not pursue that opportunity to turn an easy dollar, it is because you know those are protected properties.

[smith66]

@justnobody,
it seems that the last person my critics mention is Bessler and the first person they mention is themselves.
wonder why they think so little of Bessler.