Inertia against gravity...

[daxwc]

Jim:

You guys do realize that this video posted by Art is an example of centrifugal force doing work of lifting the bead chain up and out of the glass container.

CF? Looks like weight, momentum and leverage to me. Just an ordinary rope wouldn’t do this it takes the moving and leveraging of the fulcrum point of a link of chain.

[AB Hammer]

daxwc

You can also put a hanging style scale to the rope and you can watch the weight value increase the faster you spin the weight as well. Not to mention if you swing it around vertically you will see the weight is greater at the 6:00 point than at the 12:00 point. This is where the CF effect has useable changes.

[daxwc]

Yep AB Hammer, but that is not all what is going on in this video in my opinion. Sort of strange how the effect is almost like a mechanical siphon.

[AB Hammer]

Each of the links of the chain only goes so far and they click against the little shafts between which give the lift effect and the faster it goes the higher it will lift due to the little hits of the chain used. Simple action and reaction is noted to my eyes.
Watch the use of a whip as the whipper flicks the whip and pulls back and the whip goes further and faster to the point of breaking the sound barrier which make the crack sound we here. Just another action to note for we can not swing anything by hand that breaks the sound barrier except by effects of actions like the pull back of the whip.


Alan

[murilo]

Look at what I sent in 'try to appreciate':

Woooooosh..........

6 to 7km/sec????

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/391 ... d-to-space

This is a gift to BW kinetic gang!

[AB Hammer]

Here is a closer look of the beaded chain and blow it up to full screen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpZp5m6b9lU

[Mark]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ukMId5fIi0
Another beaded-chain video; saying it's momentum.

[Art]

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There is probably one other factor that is important in addition to what he says about the momentum IMO and that is the diameter of the arc that is formed by the chain .

The ‘arc’ is about 180 degrees of a virtual ‘pulley wheel ’ which is being driven up the virtual ‘chain track ’ by the falling part of the chain.

The faster the virtual ‘pulley wheel ’ turns and the larger its diameter , then the faster and higher the ‘virtual pulley wheel ’ should go . And since the chain is what forms the 'pully wheel' , it goes up as well .

As Dax says , this wouldn’t work with a rope , probably because the diameter of the ‘virtual pulley ’ would be too small .

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[preoccupied]

More force is being pulled down by the siphon of beads than is required to lift the beads from the jar and right over the rim of the jar. It's torque. Now that I've used that word I'm going to look it up on wikki and learn what it means for the first time.

[iacob alex]

.....or rotational inertia (centrifugal "fall"/on a radius "line") vs. gravity fall on vertical line , at :

www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLVa_yBIAm8

If we can play an inequality ( spiral rotational inertia > gravity fall) , we ca use this difference , so to obtain "self"/continuous motion..?!.

Al_ex

[murilo]

Al_ex,
good finding!!!
This is good for those KE guys...
KE is there up to the moment where a reducing speed happens... exactly before the instantly return of mass command!
Best!
M

[iacob alex]

.....at : https://vimeo.com/173749166
Pairing Newton's Law ( action=reaction ) for our search... or more action ( free gravity fall of your model ) equal more reaction ( rotational inertia " storage") , so...a possibility to "unlock" your test.
Al_ex

[iacob alex]

.....or gravity against inertia (thinking about a gravity unbalance or free fall) it's the same thing ...Newton's action=reaction.
If inertia is the force that holds the Universe together , take a look , at :
https://fs.blog/2018/04/inertia/
.....and there : "Any object that can be rotated , such a wheel ,has rotational inertia.This tells us how is to change the object's speed around the axis..."
If free fall ( increasing velocity ) of a mass is due to gravity , the reaction of inertia will be an "inertial induction "!?
So , the search of the "prime mover " (if we intend a gravity powered device ...) of this forum , seems to be inertia...if we play the inertial induction in a "certain manner " ?!
Al_ex