I already told you how I thought it works, it is exactly as it states; I don’t think he is trying to trick anybody. Compare this flywheel to a gyroscope and realise the spring is taking energy and putting it back in, but will run a long time still like a pendulum. If he took the spring and cam off and spun it you would have replied that the flywheel rotates for a very long time and has good bearings.It seems our pseudo-intellectual friends who repetitively discuss university foundation year physics on other threads do not have the wherewithall to commit comments here due to their lack of real world knowledge on such a simple device as this and how it works.
Interesting Video
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Furcurequs
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daxwc,
That was my initial thought until I saw the variability of the speed as the fellow moved the device around on the table.
I also felt it seemed a little bit noisier than maybe it should have been.
Either way, I don't see anything to really get excited about.
Dwayne
That was my initial thought until I saw the variability of the speed as the fellow moved the device around on the table.
I also felt it seemed a little bit noisier than maybe it should have been.
Either way, I don't see anything to really get excited about.
Dwayne
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maybe the spring is bimetallic and is drawing the heat away from the cam contact to unflex it past the sticky point. or flex it. i might be dyslexic.
but it can't convert all of the heat, that would be an isolated system and it's clearly not.
the only isolated system is the universe and even that is still a maybe.
but it can't convert all of the heat, that would be an isolated system and it's clearly not.
the only isolated system is the universe and even that is still a maybe.
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Well, that thing certainly outperforms one of my TEDCO toy gyroscopes when I spin it up to about the same speed. I can definitely tell by the sound when I hold it near my ear that it is constantly decelerating.
The flywheel in the video is definitely more massive, though, and with better bearings, too?
...hmmm...
It's still kind of hard to say, but as steady as that so-called "spring powered motor" runs, when it's not also actually speeding up, I would probably lean toward believing there's a hidden power source.
The flywheel in the video is definitely more massive, though, and with better bearings, too?
...hmmm...
It's still kind of hard to say, but as steady as that so-called "spring powered motor" runs, when it's not also actually speeding up, I would probably lean toward believing there's a hidden power source.
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re: Interesting Video
I've watched this video about six times now and I am convinced it is a simple matter of editing.
In all of the sequences where it appears to be running for longer than it ought to without apparently slowing down, there are slight flickers in the recording that (to me) indicate places in the sequence where this video has been stopped and edited to make it appear as though it is continuous.
Anyone can make a wheel appear to run forever on video by looping those portions where the speed varies very little
In all of the sequences where it appears to be running for longer than it ought to without apparently slowing down, there are slight flickers in the recording that (to me) indicate places in the sequence where this video has been stopped and edited to make it appear as though it is continuous.
Anyone can make a wheel appear to run forever on video by looping those portions where the speed varies very little
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2:11 it almost stops but he spins it again, before that I think he just edited the video probably due to a mistake in speech and must admit this is where I quit watching before. 3:40 it accelerates and this is what the talk is about… hmmm. First guess would be a battery under the table and he moves the base till it contacts wires set in the table cloth design, unless he somehow he edited it and the software lines the photo up then crops it.
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Dwayne wrote;
The adjustable two section capacitor that I previously linked to is firmly attached to the shaft or axle. One section of the capacitor picks up the signal from the antenna. The other half controls a frequency created within the radio via what was called a "tank circuit aka LC_circuit". When moving the capacitor the difference between the two halves would maintain a set frequency known as "Intermediate frequency"or "IF".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LC_circuit
This kept the frequency going to the amplifier section at a constant set frequency for which the audio portion of the components were built to except.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermediate_frequency
During WWII when radio silence was deemed necessary, this did not mean that you were not to talk on the radio but shut it off. The IF frequency was a constant and always present when the radio was on. The enemy could track your location by the known IF signal your radio was emitting.
Ralph
The grooved pulley/flywheel and tuning knob were commonly attached to the same shaft as the tuning capacitor. The pulley, string and tension spring was connected to either a linear or radial tuning dial display.As someone who had enough interest in electronics to take electrical engineering in college, I used to peek into just about any electronic contraption I could get my hands on.
I remember once seeing a rather large flywheel connected to the tuning capacitor of some sort of radio I was messing with. If I remember correctly, it had a string looped around it that then went over a grooved pulley attached to the tuning knob and then had some sort of tensioning spring attached to the string.
Out of curiosity I just went into my store room where I have a couple of old broken stereo receivers. Taking a quick look into one of those, it seems that even it has a flywheel about the size of the one in this video. The flywheel's width seems to be just shy of the width of my thumb and it's attached to the tuning knob itself rather than directly to the variable capacitor, though.
The adjustable two section capacitor that I previously linked to is firmly attached to the shaft or axle. One section of the capacitor picks up the signal from the antenna. The other half controls a frequency created within the radio via what was called a "tank circuit aka LC_circuit". When moving the capacitor the difference between the two halves would maintain a set frequency known as "Intermediate frequency"or "IF".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LC_circuit
This kept the frequency going to the amplifier section at a constant set frequency for which the audio portion of the components were built to except.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermediate_frequency
During WWII when radio silence was deemed necessary, this did not mean that you were not to talk on the radio but shut it off. The IF frequency was a constant and always present when the radio was on. The enemy could track your location by the known IF signal your radio was emitting.
Ralph
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re: Interesting Video
Hi all ,
The way I see it is the cam flex the leaf spring , which moves the weight slightly later , as the cam progress on the leave spring , it gets progressively easier to flex the spring . The reason for this is the distance the spring moves to the deg of rotation of the cam and also the distance to the pivot increases . Because the cam is driven by a flywheel the flywheel does all the work at max rpm as the cam hits the spring . The flywheel will not decelerate at the same speed in the few deg of turning while the cam is on the spring as the load on the cam decreases . While the cam reaches apex , the leave spring will continuou in the forced direction because of the weight's inertia . For a very short time the leave spring and the cam separate , but the spring will overcome the inertia of the weight and rebound to catch up with the cam and as the cam reaches max speed in directional movement , the leave spring will hit the cam and carry it's impetus past the point where the cam struck the spring in the first place but on a much more favourable position . When the weight is moved on the leaf spring you alter the frequency of the oscillation to match the rpm of the flywheel .
For this to happen you have to have the right weight in flywheel , the right tension of leave spring , the right cam throw , and the right religion , less it will not work .
That is what I see .
The way I see it is the cam flex the leaf spring , which moves the weight slightly later , as the cam progress on the leave spring , it gets progressively easier to flex the spring . The reason for this is the distance the spring moves to the deg of rotation of the cam and also the distance to the pivot increases . Because the cam is driven by a flywheel the flywheel does all the work at max rpm as the cam hits the spring . The flywheel will not decelerate at the same speed in the few deg of turning while the cam is on the spring as the load on the cam decreases . While the cam reaches apex , the leave spring will continuou in the forced direction because of the weight's inertia . For a very short time the leave spring and the cam separate , but the spring will overcome the inertia of the weight and rebound to catch up with the cam and as the cam reaches max speed in directional movement , the leave spring will hit the cam and carry it's impetus past the point where the cam struck the spring in the first place but on a much more favourable position . When the weight is moved on the leaf spring you alter the frequency of the oscillation to match the rpm of the flywheel .
For this to happen you have to have the right weight in flywheel , the right tension of leave spring , the right cam throw , and the right religion , less it will not work .
That is what I see .
re: Interesting Video
IMO; The dominant flywheel does not meet the appropriate number of conditions for a working machine.
First; The flywheel must be able to transfer its momentum to a smaller mass. The wheel could do this because the adjustable mass is smaller than the wheel. But the adjustable mass scarcely moves, so its change in momentum would be almost zero.
Step two; The energy created in step one has to be loaded into a force field that then converts the energy into momentum. This step takes distance and time. In one run against the spring the wheel allegedly loads and unloads the spring, while using roughly the same time and distance.
I think that without an external energy source the machine would stop in less than ten turns.
He could place the machine on goblets, and give us a part number for those oversize bearings.
Don’t get me wrong; making energy is doable; I do it all the time. But it is a two step process.
I tried to find The Dominant Flywheel by typing in key words, to see if I could find out more about the inventor. I could not find more from him; but I found numerous fraudulent sites. Apparently there are no ethical moorings anymore. I guess it is now a legal sport to present false experiments on the internet.
I am sure our governments won't police the fraud as taxes on energy are a primary income.
Most won't or can't follow the logical basis by which energy can be made, and they won't or can't construct the experimental pieces or step to the goal. Most are left browsing the net for machines. But 99% of those machines will be frauds. Along with this fraudulent Law of Conservation of Energy it leaves this task on establishing free energy even more difficult that I thought. There is no point talking to the disparaged; there will be thousands of them. It looks like it is; build or perish.
First; The flywheel must be able to transfer its momentum to a smaller mass. The wheel could do this because the adjustable mass is smaller than the wheel. But the adjustable mass scarcely moves, so its change in momentum would be almost zero.
Step two; The energy created in step one has to be loaded into a force field that then converts the energy into momentum. This step takes distance and time. In one run against the spring the wheel allegedly loads and unloads the spring, while using roughly the same time and distance.
I think that without an external energy source the machine would stop in less than ten turns.
He could place the machine on goblets, and give us a part number for those oversize bearings.
Don’t get me wrong; making energy is doable; I do it all the time. But it is a two step process.
I tried to find The Dominant Flywheel by typing in key words, to see if I could find out more about the inventor. I could not find more from him; but I found numerous fraudulent sites. Apparently there are no ethical moorings anymore. I guess it is now a legal sport to present false experiments on the internet.
I am sure our governments won't police the fraud as taxes on energy are a primary income.
Most won't or can't follow the logical basis by which energy can be made, and they won't or can't construct the experimental pieces or step to the goal. Most are left browsing the net for machines. But 99% of those machines will be frauds. Along with this fraudulent Law of Conservation of Energy it leaves this task on establishing free energy even more difficult that I thought. There is no point talking to the disparaged; there will be thousands of them. It looks like it is; build or perish.
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re: Interesting Video
Spintronics and magnetisim is a good read on Google for those interested in this type of device one of the the forerunners now deceased was a gentleman by the name of Howard Johnston...
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It can just be caused by a Apsden efect.
Various materials have various "rotational inertia memory constant" (magnets greatest) but what generally applies to all rotating bodies - sooner after been slowed down the body is accelerated to it's original speed- lower is the energy required to get there.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/76567187/1995 ... al-Inertia
Various materials have various "rotational inertia memory constant" (magnets greatest) but what generally applies to all rotating bodies - sooner after been slowed down the body is accelerated to it's original speed- lower is the energy required to get there.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/76567187/1995 ... al-Inertia
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re: Interesting Video
Even with high grade lubrication, bearing quality, balancing, spring optimization and very high speed, this device will stop!
It will stop specially if asked to work as every flywheel should: to return output!
BUT for sure, I LOVE this happy design!
It will stop specially if asked to work as every flywheel should: to return output!
BUT for sure, I LOVE this happy design!
