Magnet/gravity treadmill device questions

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re: Magnet/gravity treadmill device questions

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And YES permanent magnets will continuously turn a device on their own if arranged correctly with no help from electronics.
Such hand-held devices do exist, that also don't need electronics - they do however always need Mr Hand - Mr Hand provides chemical energy [muscles] to the system to break equilibrium of forces - many are unaware apparently that they are doing this ?!

I suggest you attempt to replace Mr Hands energy input with a static clamp or spring energy storage system, flywheel & cam etc, & see if you can duplicate continuous rotation sans Mr Hand & NO additional energy input.
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Can you describe a static clamp or spring energy storage system? Maybe a small diagram? I was thinking of a levitated pencil idea but hot sure it wioll work in this case. Thanks.
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Perhaps we could save time & you post a drawing of your concept & where Mr Hand is used & for what purpose - then I'll suggest a way to take Mr Hand out of the equation.
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Thanks but we will wait till a patent pending is issued on the idea. Its so simple and inexpensive to make that I wonder why it never came out as a toy. I will then make a video of it rotating in my finger tips and post it.
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This reminds me of the Egely Wheel Vitality Meter that self-rotates when you place your hands near it. I've seen and played with one of these meters. They have a battery and electronics, but it only acts as a speed meter. You can remove the battery or simply turn it off, and the little wheel still works the same. It seems to work by random air currents caused my hand movements near the wheel and also by air currents cause by the heat of your hand. Or static charges might effect it. You can make your own from tinfoil or paper balanced so as to spin on a pin-point and it will act about the same way.

The Egely meter was discussed about 9 years ago: http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... =5896#5896

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If you have applied for a patent, you can then go about your business of marketing and manufacturing or whatever and claim "patent pending" from then on, but there is no official patent office designation of such - neither is there any guarantee that you will be getting a patent (or that it doesn't infringe someone else's, either, I guess).

You might want to make sure the patent office has at least received your patent application first, however.

I don't know whether you already know this or not, so I'm just making the clarification.

Fletcher et alia, I can currently power one of my still incomplete test devices using Misters Hand and Fingers. Skeptics would point out that this is the ideomotor effect. Our muscles can quite easily input the energy even when we might not be able to notice nor want to believe it.

With my device I have to resist forces with my fingers and hands, but with muscles that are not perfectly rigid, of course, when I think I'm just resisting I could quite easily be more than resisting and actually pushing in the direction of motion. Our muscles and senses just don't have enough fine tuned feedback to make the correct determination.

So, we must assume the worst. "It works!!" ...lol

Okay, I really do need to get my mechanism built.

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