It Would Be More Noble To Clear J. Bessler's Name, than trying to solely profit

[rks1878]

from a rediscovery of what it is he found to turn his wheels.

I have been falsely accused myself, by my x wife, to gain an advntage in divorce. It took considerable time, skill and patience to put her away in the courts several years ago. My "way", is to put up, or shut up, and Mr. Bessler is no longer around to defend himself....


Who will step forward to the task?

[jim_mich]

Bessler's name WILL BE CLEARED, of that I am sure.

But the one that does all the work should also be compensated; just as I'm sure your lawyers in your divorce were compensated for their time and effort. No one will 'solely' profit. There will be many that profit, including factory workers, engineers, investors, salesmen, secretaries, etc. Why is it that people (especially younger people) view businesses as only greedy and profit hungry. A business MUST make a profit or break even else it won't survive. I just don't see why people have such a hang-up about someone making some profit. Would you deny a hamburger flipper his wages? Should a doctor perform surgery for free? Maybe the president should not be paid.

An independent inventor does all his work up front and get nothing unless he succeeds. No one pays him a wage. No one provides insurance. He must sustain himself sometimes for years before his talents bring forth fruit. Then should he be denied a profit?

Would it not be nobler to clear Bessler's name AND provide jobs for people AND provide a source of free energy AND compensate the inventor?

[Wheeler]

Jim_Mich
Hello
I thought your post was written very well, and I am wondering if you could paint a picture of how this could happnen at your convenience.
Thanks

[rks1878]

Hello Jim_Mich:

Thank you for your thoughts, and yes they were expressed very well and forcefully too...

One thing though...

Where did I say that profit was a bad thing?

I believe a careful reading of my post whould detect a concern for priorities. You know, in my cabinet business, I always pay my suppliers and the rent before I pay myself. That sort of thing.

And I think that if we dedicate ourselves to defending Mr. Bessler, it would be looked upon, at some level, as the right thing to do.

Let profit be the one that takes care of himself..

[jim_mich]

Where did I say that profit was a bad thing?

I'm sorry, mabe I just assumed that from the title? And from others on past posts saying, "just give it away"?

Wheeler,
When working proof of principle models are shown to the world, then will be the time to clear Bessler's name.

[Wheeler]

So someone finds the principal and tests it over and over again.
What mistakes could he or she make?
What perfect moves might one thoughtfully move forward with?
What would the chain of events look like?

Or would they take the advice of many, and never show it?
The danger.
Who is waiting to destroy it if it comes true?
I seem to meet people who say we need it,and they would be happy if it came, but I also meet people who say it would cause wars, if one country found it.
Would people begin to have hope, and begin to create a whole new adventure around it?
I wonder?

[Vic Hays]

There is no way of knowing absolutely that Bessler was not a fraud. There is no way of knowing absolutely what his mechanism was. I intemd to find a way to make gravity do work unless someone else beats me to it. The vindication Bessler may receive is that f/e using gravity is possible.

[Wheeler]

Yes all this about Bessler is never going to lead to actual proof that Bessler did what we do now.
Gravity will win.

[rks1878]

That's OK Jim. Forget it. I know there's a lot of stress out there amongst us.


Wheeler: I've thought about that too. The steps I'd take would be...

Move the device to a secure location.

1. As a courtesy to John Collins for his work, I would notify him first and possibly collaborate on a disclosure on this site. That would be a general announcement of coming news at a specific time so that everybody could be able to get it at the same time. And a video, then a live webcam. Of course, there would be a mark on the wheel so the rpm could be counted.

2. After awhile, contact the print media.

3. Schedule demonstrations at the universities. I would start at my alma mater, The Virginia Military Institute. I would likely reveal the complete mechanism to the Head of the Physics or Civil Engineering Dept. and to NOONE else, and I could trust whoever holds these positions to keep the confidence to themselves until I give the release.

4. Get a patent initiated and make whatever disclosures are necessary towards that end.

5. Destroy the wheel until a patent is granted. By this time there would be enough video around.

6. I would name the commercial version of the device, the Bessler Bumble Bee Number 4, or the B3(cubed)5. 4? whatever the number of wheels Mr. Bessler made, this would be the next in succession.

Dream On



5. P

[Wheeler]

That's good advice. Makes sense too

[racer270]

like this.............my" first post"......... "testing 1 2 3 .....DANGER IF THIS WORKS......,

but then even a blind squirrel can find a nut

[Clarkie]

If you go for the live web cam you can place a copy of a daily news paper every morning so everybody can see its genuinely running every day.

Now you can decide who's news paper to put in camera view.

Pete.

[ken_behrendt]

I do not really consider Bessler's name or reputation to be in need of clearing. I think it's quite obvious to anybody who takes the time to study his history that he was, indeed, quite genuine.

However, the best way to HONOR his achievement is to replicate it...even if that replication is not particularly useful as a power source. The fact is that he DID find a PRINCIPLE that allows a rotary machine to remain in continuous motion. Once his wheels are duplicated with the mechanism that HE most likely used and we fully understand its principle of operation, then perhaps we can call it the "Bessler Effect" or something similar. I'm confident that once the Bessler Effect is fully understood, then it will lead to a whole new technology of free energy devices, some of which MAY be useful in solving our planet's looming energy crisis.

ken

[Wheeler]

The fact is that he DID find a PRINCIPLE that allows a rotary machine to remain in continuous motion.

Ken did you actually mean this, or just the wrong wording?
I did not know it was a fact.
Please excuse me if I am incorrect.

[rks1878]

Clarkie,

I think I would use this link to verify the time. Visible on the laptop running the webcam...

http://nist.time.gov/