i have one group of friends who has this real crazy guy in their group--
they keep telling me crazy stories about him
never met him, yet, myself
but he's always doing weird crazy things
and one story they told me involved him being on the phone
(with some govt agency he was pissed at for some reason)
and he's spouting random crazy idiot threats against the govt--and the president--etc
and, according to the story, the guy on the other end who was talking to him, as he was gurgling and raging, says, "well, what'rya going to do now?"
and immediately he hears the crunch on the gravel, in the driveway, as the govt vehicle pulls up to his house
and guys are running towards his door
that fast--within minutes of the call being placed--while he was still on the phone!
true story
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by the way: they just announced, this morning, that they have a patch for that last thing i posted about the other day
just illustrates the "man-in-the-middle" cyberscam ploy
anything's possible--end then there's an AP for it--and then there's a glitch in THAT--and a bug in THAT--and then there's a patch for it
:{/
they're ten years ahead of any shit I'M ever thinking about
that's fer sure
i gotta NUFF to think about--not THIS garbage
i'm just going to give up these boxes and get an abacus, or something, i think
Big brother is watching...
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re: Big brother is watching...
There was a kid in a store I worked at that used to call in bomb threats to the local PD from the payphone outside, just so he could enjoy the excitement it generated. The third time he did it, the person asked him if he could please hold, because they had an emergency on the other line. He was still waiting when the cop cars rolled up.... LOL
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re: Big brother is watching...
yeah--it turns out that thing they show in every movie:
where someone is trying desperately to hold the criminal (or edgy anti-hero actual good guy-wartever) on the phone
but he hangs up JUST before they have time enough to trace the call
is bogus
been bogus for decades--maybe always
it's right there on the screen, instantly
DUH
lol
i guess that was something they had to do in the fifties or frikkin forties, or something
but they still show it in every movie
"DAMN! Two more seconds and we woulda HAD him!"
"Ah...he's too smaht for that, Captain"
i just saw it in some idiot movie or tv show--like about a day ago
it's like area 51
yeah--you know that place...
yeah ya do hell-it's top secret--it's in every movie
where someone is trying desperately to hold the criminal (or edgy anti-hero actual good guy-wartever) on the phone
but he hangs up JUST before they have time enough to trace the call
is bogus
been bogus for decades--maybe always
it's right there on the screen, instantly
DUH
lol
i guess that was something they had to do in the fifties or frikkin forties, or something
but they still show it in every movie
"DAMN! Two more seconds and we woulda HAD him!"
"Ah...he's too smaht for that, Captain"
i just saw it in some idiot movie or tv show--like about a day ago
it's like area 51
yeah--you know that place...
yeah ya do hell-it's top secret--it's in every movie
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re: Big brother is watching...
BARhar!
THELMA AND LOUISE!
came out 1991--just watched it, again, yesterday
--had been 20 years, or so, since i'd viewed it
and they use the old phone tap, time limit cliche:
thelma calls her husband to try and feel out if the cops are there, in the house, yet, or not
and he answers with such a cheerie "Hello, baby!"
that she immediately hangs up and says: "They're there!"
so louise takes the phone, and calls again, and says: "Lemme speak to the cops, i KNOW they are there"
so she's talking to the cop, and, after a while, thelma grabs the phone and hangs it up, and says: "Now, don't be stupid, Louise!"
(meaning: 'You KNOW you have to hang up just before the time limit--or else they can trace the call!')
and the head cop turns towards the technician fiddling with the devices on the phone and yells "DID YOU GET THAT?"
and the guy nods:--he had JUST enough time!
so, THIS is the way the cops corner them near the grand canyon (which they, then, decide to drive off the edge of)
but, i assure you, even back in 1991, if the FBI came to yer house to intercept an expected call from a suspect
whatever device they hooked up
showed the number and location of the person placing the call instantaneously
just like what every 911 operator has in front of them
no process (that always took exactly 90 seconds or whatever the cliche says) ensued
i have no idea why this is in every movie with a criminal/cop phone-exchange scene
but it is
even in new, modern movies
looks exciting, suspenseful and technical, i guess
:{/
"Gee, will the hero/anti-hero/criminal/good guy be so dumb as to go too long?"
"Gee, will the cops have JUST enough time to make the trace?"
I guess it's just TOO good of a plot-advancement device for script writers to give up
---otherwise you couldn't have the dramatic one-to-one phone confrontation between the pursuer and the pursued
the "bad" guy HAS to think he has a free time period
or he'd never place the call, to taunt the cop snottily, (as always happens), in the FIRST damn place
and that's 29 more seconds of edgy dialogue you don't have in the movie
--so you'd have to add three more car explosions and another gratuitous nudity flash
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i guess yer just not supposed to think about it:
just enjoy the punk taunting the cop, snottily
sorta like when Captain Kirk screams "Sulu! I need those shields up! NOW DAMMIT!"
and Sulu is seen straining physically, saying: "I'm TRYING, Captain!"
If you thought about the fact that there's only two possible things Sulu could be doing...
you'd miss the photon torpedo launch
(I men, shit, he's either pushing the button harder
or he's turning the knob harder)
:{?
THELMA AND LOUISE!
came out 1991--just watched it, again, yesterday
--had been 20 years, or so, since i'd viewed it
and they use the old phone tap, time limit cliche:
thelma calls her husband to try and feel out if the cops are there, in the house, yet, or not
and he answers with such a cheerie "Hello, baby!"
that she immediately hangs up and says: "They're there!"
so louise takes the phone, and calls again, and says: "Lemme speak to the cops, i KNOW they are there"
so she's talking to the cop, and, after a while, thelma grabs the phone and hangs it up, and says: "Now, don't be stupid, Louise!"
(meaning: 'You KNOW you have to hang up just before the time limit--or else they can trace the call!')
and the head cop turns towards the technician fiddling with the devices on the phone and yells "DID YOU GET THAT?"
and the guy nods:--he had JUST enough time!
so, THIS is the way the cops corner them near the grand canyon (which they, then, decide to drive off the edge of)
but, i assure you, even back in 1991, if the FBI came to yer house to intercept an expected call from a suspect
whatever device they hooked up
showed the number and location of the person placing the call instantaneously
just like what every 911 operator has in front of them
no process (that always took exactly 90 seconds or whatever the cliche says) ensued
i have no idea why this is in every movie with a criminal/cop phone-exchange scene
but it is
even in new, modern movies
looks exciting, suspenseful and technical, i guess
:{/
"Gee, will the hero/anti-hero/criminal/good guy be so dumb as to go too long?"
"Gee, will the cops have JUST enough time to make the trace?"
I guess it's just TOO good of a plot-advancement device for script writers to give up
---otherwise you couldn't have the dramatic one-to-one phone confrontation between the pursuer and the pursued
the "bad" guy HAS to think he has a free time period
or he'd never place the call, to taunt the cop snottily, (as always happens), in the FIRST damn place
and that's 29 more seconds of edgy dialogue you don't have in the movie
--so you'd have to add three more car explosions and another gratuitous nudity flash
************************************
i guess yer just not supposed to think about it:
just enjoy the punk taunting the cop, snottily
sorta like when Captain Kirk screams "Sulu! I need those shields up! NOW DAMMIT!"
and Sulu is seen straining physically, saying: "I'm TRYING, Captain!"
If you thought about the fact that there's only two possible things Sulu could be doing...
you'd miss the photon torpedo launch
(I men, shit, he's either pushing the button harder
or he's turning the knob harder)
:{?
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Beer is the cause and the solution of all my problems.
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re: Big brother is watching...
With all this technology today,you have to wonder how,Flight MH370 a Boeing 777 could go missing/off the radar etc.for 5-7 hours,in a different direction completely,with tracking satalites/mobile phone tracking ,black boxes etc.,its a very worrying situation for the relatives of the passengers...but what if it had been a rogue nuclear missle or a suicide plane attack on a city....really Big Brother isn't "on the ball"as much as he thinks he is......the uncertainty of what happened must be unbearable for those families awaiting news of their loved ones....its a mystery..
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re: Big brother is watching...
The television program Frontline on PBS (Public Broadcasting System) in the U.S. has recently had two episodes about the NSA and surveillance in the U.S. titled "United States of Secrets (Parts One and Two)." It can be streamed online. The first episode is about two hours long and the second is only about an hour.
http://video.pbs.org/program/frontline/
"United States of Secrets (Part One)":
http://video.pbs.org/video/2365245528/
"United States of Secrets (Part Two)":
http://video.pbs.org/video/2365251169/
Dwayne
http://video.pbs.org/program/frontline/
"United States of Secrets (Part One)":
http://video.pbs.org/video/2365245528/
"United States of Secrets (Part Two)":
http://video.pbs.org/video/2365251169/
Dwayne
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I prefer working alone.
re: Big brother is watching...
Any intelligent comparison with 'avalanchedrive' will show that all PM turning wheels are only baby's toys!
re: Big brother is watching...
BARhar!
watching documentary: "Radio unnameable"
and they may have just explained the solving of the mystery of the origins of the 'phone-trace time-limit movie cliche and urban legend' i was joking about:
1970: new york city: WBAI radio:
suicide attemptee calls talk radio guy--explains he's "in the process of committing suicide"--already took the pills
the dj talks to the guy--trying to keep him awake
after 3 min the suicidal guy says he has to hang up now--because he doesn't want to overshoot the time limit point where they will be able to trace the call
the DJ says: "NAW--it takes a long time to trace a call"
"are you telling me the truth? why's that?--why would it take a long time?"
(the guy is starting to mumble and drool from the drugs, at this point)
"aah, because the phone company is even more messed up than your life"
(this keeps the guy talking and the narrator explains that:
in those days the only way to trace a call was to send someone down into the main switching station (of the phone company itself) and, one by one, plug into every single call that might be going on, until you heard the conversation you were looking for--you might be able to narrow it down to an area-or a neighborhood, but there could still be thousands of calls
the dj kept the guy on the phone till he fell asleep and started snoring--three hours into the call
and then kept the guy's snoring on the line for five more hours
and after 8 hours they finally found the line
(the guy was resuscitated)
so that's how they used to do it
and you would have more time depending on how big a town you were in
this guy that took 8 hours was in new york
so maybe in a small town (like Mayberry--with ol' Marge: the one operator tugging on patch cords in the main switching station)-- perhaps not too long
AFTER someone GETS, physically, down to the switching station
but there could never be some standard 4 minute universal time limit that everyone knows about (apparently everyone THINKS they knew about it--in every movie, anyway) lol
and there wouldn't be a cop right there in the station
or in the suspects house, or whatever,
turning to any guy with any device
screaming; "TELL me you got that in time!"
lol
ah for the good old days, eh?
"DID you get that snore! TELL me you got it!"
"Naw--he's too smaht for that, Chief"
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"Any intelligent comparison with 'avalanchedrive' will show that all PM turning wheels are only baby's toys!"
correct gaucho! i should think an archimedes screw would be better
mo bettah you listen me
hehe
i hate wheels, now
seriously?--with gravity?--you know...that thing that only pulls one direction (because time only goes in one direction):
crazed glassy eyed chillinz wanna use THAT axis?
really? sure bout that?--there's two others y'know
pitch roll and yaw, y'all sheesh!
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watching documentary: "Radio unnameable"
and they may have just explained the solving of the mystery of the origins of the 'phone-trace time-limit movie cliche and urban legend' i was joking about:
1970: new york city: WBAI radio:
suicide attemptee calls talk radio guy--explains he's "in the process of committing suicide"--already took the pills
the dj talks to the guy--trying to keep him awake
after 3 min the suicidal guy says he has to hang up now--because he doesn't want to overshoot the time limit point where they will be able to trace the call
the DJ says: "NAW--it takes a long time to trace a call"
"are you telling me the truth? why's that?--why would it take a long time?"
(the guy is starting to mumble and drool from the drugs, at this point)
"aah, because the phone company is even more messed up than your life"
(this keeps the guy talking and the narrator explains that:
in those days the only way to trace a call was to send someone down into the main switching station (of the phone company itself) and, one by one, plug into every single call that might be going on, until you heard the conversation you were looking for--you might be able to narrow it down to an area-or a neighborhood, but there could still be thousands of calls
the dj kept the guy on the phone till he fell asleep and started snoring--three hours into the call
and then kept the guy's snoring on the line for five more hours
and after 8 hours they finally found the line
(the guy was resuscitated)
so that's how they used to do it
and you would have more time depending on how big a town you were in
this guy that took 8 hours was in new york
so maybe in a small town (like Mayberry--with ol' Marge: the one operator tugging on patch cords in the main switching station)-- perhaps not too long
AFTER someone GETS, physically, down to the switching station
but there could never be some standard 4 minute universal time limit that everyone knows about (apparently everyone THINKS they knew about it--in every movie, anyway) lol
and there wouldn't be a cop right there in the station
or in the suspects house, or whatever,
turning to any guy with any device
screaming; "TELL me you got that in time!"
lol
ah for the good old days, eh?
"DID you get that snore! TELL me you got it!"
"Naw--he's too smaht for that, Chief"
********************************************************
"Any intelligent comparison with 'avalanchedrive' will show that all PM turning wheels are only baby's toys!"
correct gaucho! i should think an archimedes screw would be better
mo bettah you listen me
hehe
i hate wheels, now
seriously?--with gravity?--you know...that thing that only pulls one direction (because time only goes in one direction):
crazed glassy eyed chillinz wanna use THAT axis?
really? sure bout that?--there's two others y'know
pitch roll and yaw, y'all sheesh!
(maybe it spins THIS way)
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re: Big brother is watching...
ok well i guess this would be called meta data:
just saw
MSNBC live call-in poll, during program: "Does NSA make us safer?"
does NSA make us safer?
democrats: .....70% yes-.......30% no
republicans: ....34% yes-.......66% no
independents...33% yes-........67% no
men: ..............39% yes-.......61% no
women: ..........54% yes-.......46% no
did snowden serve the public interest or harm national security?
dem:............58% harmed-.....42% served
rep:.............44% harmed-.....56% served
ind:.............37% harmed-.....63% served
men:...........43% harmed-.....57% served
women:.......61% harmed-.....39% served
(again, as always, i'm the only one with the correct answer: 'both') lol
is privacy or protection from terrorists more important?
dem: ...................62% protection-....38% privacy
rep: ....................47% protection-.... 53% privacy
ind: ....................35% protection-.....65% privacy
just saw
MSNBC live call-in poll, during program: "Does NSA make us safer?"
does NSA make us safer?
democrats: .....70% yes-.......30% no
republicans: ....34% yes-.......66% no
independents...33% yes-........67% no
men: ..............39% yes-.......61% no
women: ..........54% yes-.......46% no
did snowden serve the public interest or harm national security?
dem:............58% harmed-.....42% served
rep:.............44% harmed-.....56% served
ind:.............37% harmed-.....63% served
men:...........43% harmed-.....57% served
women:.......61% harmed-.....39% served
(again, as always, i'm the only one with the correct answer: 'both') lol
is privacy or protection from terrorists more important?
dem: ...................62% protection-....38% privacy
rep: ....................47% protection-.... 53% privacy
ind: ....................35% protection-.....65% privacy
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