Tired of Jim_Mich ??

[LustInBlack]

Not sure about that, I remember Jim acting like a child by quitting over a joke someone made.. He just want to get offended.

[jim_mich]

No, LIB, this poll was simply in response to constant harassment carried out by a few forum members, much like on a playground were others stand around and watch the bullies, but they say and do nothing. And so, one bully begins to think in his own mind, and even posted his thoughts that, "everyone is sick and tired of Jim" and he should leave.

It turns out "everyone" was initially just 3 people, which I'm confident included the bully and some of his buddies. And it seems that you, LIB, feel the same way? You would rather watch people be bullied, rather than step in and say something?

[ovyyus]

So now you're saying that 41% of "everyone" either bully you or support bullying against you by saying nothing!?

I want a re-pole :D

[Fletcher]

Even if Bessler's wheel were modeled in WM2D, the program would assume conservation of energy, and force the model to not gain any energy. This is the nature of computer modeling.

WM2D is great for figuring out how things might act. But it will never show over-unity. If you discover a real working wheel, WM2D will never show it as working, because that would go against how WM2D is programed.

False. WM2D contains no "history" of total energy. It uses Finite Element Analysis using each elements' current mass, velocity and position and predicts in each unit of time where the next velocity and position will be of every element.

Every increment of time in a simulated process is then a "new" starting position, with no retained memory of past levels. Nothing in the simulator "cares" whether you have violated symmetry.

This is just like nature. Nature does not know or care whether you violate symmetry. It's just that each micro level energy conversion process (GPE to RKE and the reverse) adds up to a conservation of total energy.

There is no one keeping tabs on the total. Each moment is it's own.

This is why WM2D is so good as a simulator. If there was any OU occurring with a mechanical process, it would show it.

In my Milkovic Rotary Secondary Oscillator proposal, I believe the sim IS showing it, although I haven't built the PoP that would prove it.

http://besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic ... oscillator

Cloud camper, you are the one calling it a 'history'. I never used that word. But WM2D does save the results of each step into computer memory. This is why a WM2D file that is saved after running will be much bigger than one save after clearing memory by making any tiny change to the assembly.

And at any given point of WM2D's 'history', the component's location is known along with its velocity. Thus the KE is known at each step. And if you include a graph of KE, then WM2D does indeed save the KE at each incremental step.

Maybe I didn't explain such a program in clear enough language for you to understand. So I'll try again...

Based upon the existing conditions of motion and mass, the program calculates current KE. Then based upon the existing conditions of motion and mass, the program makes an estimate of where each component will be at the next increment of time. It applies all forces and calculates how fast it expects each component to be moving. Also in what direction its motion.

Up to this point, you and I agree. But since the components interact with each other, the program has no way of knowing how component 'C' is going to affect component 'A' until component 'C' has been calculated. And the motions of component 'C' may affect component 'A'. So it then calculates the new KE, and compares it with the current KE. The program has made assumptions as to how far all components have moved. It then tries to verify if the assumptions were correct. If the calculations of current KE do not match the new KE calculations, then the program adjusts the motions accordingly, and makes a 2nd try. If the 2nd try fails to give a balanced KE result, then the program makes more adjustments as to how far the components moved. When the motions of the component produce a situation where the new KE equals current KE, then the program assumes the new positions of the components to be the current position. The program then steps into the next increment of time.

My HP48sx calculator had a limit of 11 tries when solving equations. This is about right for most solver programs. They either hit equality, or they hit sign reversal where the last two answers are either side of zero, at which point the program chooses the answer closest to zero. My HP48sx calculator always noted zero or sign reversal.

Sign reversal is where slight errors come into play with such programs.

Making 3 to 11 full calculations each step takes a LOT of computer power. Which is why WM2D used to run very slow on older slower computer.

The Questions !

http://www.overunity.com/14754/working- ... 7sdjkCKi4o

[Ed]

Hi Fletcher!

Looks like you've found the fountain of youth over there in Fiji? :-)

I'll start a new topic that tries to answer your simulation software questions.

[Fletcher]

Thanks Ed, I'd appreciate it.

P.S. some say living in Fiji is like going back in time 30 years - hoping to throw off any attempts at identity theft & the M.I.B. [Men In Bureaucracy - thanks Mr Tim, banked] - LOL.

[Grimer]

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The Questions !

http://www.overunity.com/14754/working- ... 7sdjkCKi4o

Very useful Fletcher. Thanks for that.

Apropos Fiji, I recently watched a BBC program on the experiences of a London cabbie in Fiji and was struck by the potential for conflict between the two racial groups. Does that give you long term concerns or do you think its far enough in the future to see you out.

I'm interested because I have a friend, John Finbarr Barry, who worked for a time as a Fiji government advisor or something. You might even have met him.

[Fletcher]

Hi Gimer ..

Not having seen the BBC program I have no context for the cabbies concerns re "potential for conflict between the two racial groups" to comment on.

"Does that give you long term concerns or do you think its far enough in the future to see you out".

I never comment on religion or politics Frank but for you I'll make a brief exception.

Fiji is a multi-cultural society, not just ITaukei [indigenous fijian born] & Fijian Indian, though they have about equal numbers & represent the majority of the society at grass roots level - the constitution of 2013 guarantees one man one vote & that the society secular - this was not always the case here - in many ways the country, economy & political landscape is being modernised & brought into line with other progressive western societies.

Previous potential conflict between those of Indian & Fijian extraction was probably based on land issues I should think - Fiji has 87% native title, some 8% crown land [including crown leasehold], 5% freehold fee-simple, under the Torrens system of land tenure - anyone can purchase free-hold land though Native Land can never be converted to Crown Lease & then free-holded as once could happen before the new constitution - like anywhere not everyone can afford free-hold land however & leasing is the only option, from the ITaukei or Crown etc.

The native tenure is often leased to the Fijian Indian families by the village land owning units etc as a way to earn income & develop the land [only a small proportion in reality] - most of the ITaukei land is in or near its natural tropical bush state with selective areas used for family subsistence farming, so the resource remains mainly intact as it was.

However, there has been a propensity to take back some leased lands in times of civil unrest by the lessor - since it is no longer worked nor an annual lease paid by the previous lessee it generally reverts & lies idle etc - usually new annual lease amounts are wanted to be negotiated by the land owners - sometimes there has been little regard for the land tenure & status under the law nor the land contract etc - on the flip side some unscrupulous lessees have subdivided & onsold the partitioned leases at a profit etc when the land is owned by the lessor - this is changing as the government overhauls Bureaucrazy, accountability, & respect for the law etc.

All in all my personal experience of working with both groups together as individuals on the same projects is that there is good tolerance & harmony - many have a working knowledge of each others native language [English is an official language & most everyone speaks it] - there is little discord that I have experienced - I think that racial & economic equality where all rights are equally shared & respected is a positive step to a harmonious & bright future.

I don't know whether I was close to the mark the cabbie was making, but then who ever has more insight than a London cabbie ;)

[primemignonite]

A LANDSLIDE 'for' . . .

Jim_Mich stays.

Are we not pleased that this question is now settled?

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Fletcher, that is very interesting information about Fiji and land ownership.

When considering my own possible move to there (or, to Tonga "Where TIME begins!"), THIS part that you wrote really is worrisome:

". . . in many ways the country & economy is being modernised & brought into line with other progressive western societies."

Here, in the U.S., we are undergoing the beginning of the very last stages of how the above invariably goes - societal death - after the terminal disease of usury-based Central Banking becomes firmly rooted, and the substance of hundreds of millions of lifetimes of labor funneled thereby, into but a few psychopathic, familial hands.

(You DO understand and accept that such need to have dominance over all creatures, great and small, no?)

All that we have left really, is all the denying yet to be done. (Indifference here having become actual High Art. We really are good at it.)

Sadly indeed, the primitive appeal that was once a feature of some places (here think Hawaii for one extreme case) is fast being 'improved' (as you have described it for Fiji) and made modern, and Westernized, where every jack then becomes as good as his master, and all caused to become equal according to statute, with such equalities being enforced by State Violence or at very least, by threat of it's terror.

However . . . slow-but-sure relief from all such constructed horror is on it's way, this to be the "finest" and last product of the Human Will, it and it's self adulation and limitless contempt for that not of itself . . .

Fukushim Daiichi ("Whatcha can't SEE won't hurtcha!")

This one sentence (of many of it's like to come, as atomic reactors go to hell) shall not be escaped, and thus our dependence upon the Terminal Denial Arts for needed false solace.

"So-be-it".

Although very miserably / painfully, the Filthy Madness IS to cease!

I suppose that one can still get lost there in the more jungle-like places in Fiji but, watch out for things that can get-grown too Atomic large and mean for comfort, Fletcher. Many species of creatures have begun already, their genetic perversions into monstrosity, humans included and these not just as to twist-of-mind (irrationality and rawest animal fear) but also the physical.

(Already Tasmania and it's denizens - both animal and human - seem to have been hit rather badly long ago. Mostly, what comes out of there now, is but purest poison of one sort or another, the screaming Devils being but subtle confirmation of the fact.)

Always, Nature shall have the Last Word, and bitch-slap us ridiculous humans silly, we and our tiny, inconsequential wills.

Ciao!

James

[Grimer]

Hi Grimer ..

Not having seen the BBC program I have no context for the cabbies concerns re "potential for conflict between the two racial groups" to comment on.

"Does that give you long term concerns or do you think its far enough in the future to see you out".

I never comment on religion or politics Frank but for you I'll make a brief exception.

Fiji is a multi-cultural society, not just ITaukei [indigenous fijian born] & Fijian Indian, though they have about equal numbers & represent the majority of the society at grass roots level - the constitution of 2013 guarantees one man one vote & that the society secular - this was not always the case here - in many ways the country, economy & political landscape is being modernised & brought into line with other progressive western societies.

Previous potential conflict between those of Indian & Fijian extraction was probably based on land issues I should think - Fiji has 87% native title, some 8% crown land [including crown leasehold], 5% freehold fee-simple, under the Torrens system of land tenure - anyone can purchase free-hold land though Native Land can never be converted to Crown Lease & then free-holded as once could happen before the new constitution - like anywhere not everyone can afford free-hold land however & leasing is the only option, from the ITaukei or Crown etc.

The native tenure is often leased to the Fijian Indian families by the village land owning units etc as a way to earn income & develop the land [only a small proportion in reality] - most of the ITaukei land is in or near its natural tropical bush state with selective areas used for family subsistence farming, so the resource remains mainly intact as it was.

However, there has been a propensity to take back some leased lands in times of civil unrest by the lessor - since it is no longer worked nor an annual lease paid by the previous lessee it generally reverts & lies idle etc - usually new annual lease amounts are wanted to be negotiated by the land owners - sometimes there has been little regard for the land tenure & status under the law nor the land contract etc - on the flip side some unscrupulous lessees have subdivided & onsold the partitioned leases at a profit etc when the land is owned by the lessor - this is changing as the government overhauls Bureaucrazy, accountability, & respect for the law etc.

All in all my personal experience of working with both groups together as individuals on the same projects is that there is good tolerance & harmony - many have a working knowledge of each others native language [English is an official language & most everyone speaks it] - there is little discord that I have experienced - I think that racial & economic equality where all rights are equally shared & respected is a positive step to a harmonious & bright future.

I don't know whether I was close to the mark the cabbie was making, but then who ever has more insight than a London cabbie ;)

Thanks for that interesting report from BesslerWheel's Fiji correspondent.

Sounds as though the population are making a go of things. Let's hope our forum members can do the same.

Here are two clips from the program.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMWKbtBK_08

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63NG4TmpgZQ

I looked at Amazon to see if a DVD was available. No luck.

Just out of interest I thought I'd google the ethnic make up of London.

Key Findings
• The White population of Greater London is projected to stabilise at about 4.9 million throughout the next decade and increase very slightly thereafter, reaching 5.0 million in 2041.
• The BAME (Black and Minority Ethnic, GLA definition) population of Greater London is projected to increase from 3.3 million in 2011 to 5.1 million in 2041.
• The proportion of the Greater London population that is BAME is projected to reach 50 per cent by 2037. By 2037, 15 London boroughs are projected to have BAME majority populations, four in Inner London (Lewisham, Newham, Southwark and Tower Hamlets) and 11 in Outer London (Barking and Dagenham, Brent, Croydon, Ealing, Enfield, Greenwich, Harrow, Hillingdon, Hounslow, Redbridge and Waltham Forest).
• Over the projection period the greatest relative growth is projected to occur in the Black Other, Other Asian, and Other ethnic groups.
• By the Census year 2011 the Black African population (576 thousand) had surpassed the Indian population (545 thousand) to become the biggest individual BAME ethnic group in Greater London. The ethnic projections indicate that by 2023 the Other Asian population will reach 751 thousand to become the biggest individual BAME ethnic group.

In Census year 2001 only Newham and Brent had a BAME majority of over 50 per cent. Newham’s BAME proportion was 60.7 per cent in 2001, reached 71.0 per cent in Census year 2011, and is projected to reach 79.1 per cent in 2041. Brent’s BAME proportion was 54.7 per cent in 2001, reached 63.7 per cent in 2011, and is projected to reach 71.9 per cent in 2041.

Very different from when I was a child. The only ethnic one ever saw then was a racing tipster called Prince Monolulu.

[Mark]

Very different from when I was a child. The only ethnic one ever saw then was a racing tipster called Prince Monolulu.

ethnic = anyone but "us"

Damned heathens!

[cbucket2]

The only ethnic one ever saw then was a racing tipster called Prince Monolulu.

The internet never forgets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Monolulu

[Grimer]

The only ethnic one ever saw then was a racing tipster called Prince Monolulu.

The internet never forgets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Monolulu

Yep, Charlie.

That's where I found out how to spell his name correctly. ;-)

[Grimer]

Very different from when I was a child. The only ethnic one ever saw then was a racing tipster called Prince Monolulu.

ethnic = anyone but "us"

Damned heathens!

My father used to say, the wogs begin at Calais. However, he was only joking because he married a Belgian lady. ;-)

[rasselasss]

This poll shows there are many interested in what Jim has to say and really you guys must accept this....Jim's not perfect,but who is,certainly not you guys constantly harrassing him ......WHY ,if you have issues with him can you not simply push the "ignore"button ........judging by the daily number of hits on the statistic's thread lately, its causing harm to this Forum......There are more than you guys reading here daily....have a care.....JMO..