Religion

[jtolan]

Techstuf wrote:

The doppler shift hits the ultraviolet when one is running from the light of truth at near superluminal velocities.

LOL, man you crack me up. That's way to funny! Where do you get this stuff? I just love this forum!!

Hey guys, by the way, I started my religious postings, after Ken posted his vision. I'm a bit unconfortable with that notion. Knowing what happened to someone I knew who walked down the easter religion/yoga/meditation/ weird astral projections, etc... road.

At one point "Bessler" like fellows in his lucid "dreams" (which got very real after a while) started giving him useful info and then commands and he started obeying until the most dangerous command came "jump off a bridge, instant teleportation to heaven" and he did it. How sad, so yes, I'm very leary of "dream revealed info" especially when its not about God's purposes. There is a Devil out there, we shouldn't forget that.

Which brings up a good point. Would God want us to discover free energy?

I have to admit, I prayed about it a while back and the thought that flashed through my head was something like "you do it by yourself, I gave you a brain, if I tell you it will ruin it, and most likely you won't give God the glory" It's almost as if the process is more important then the goal.

What do you guys think?

[Joel Wright]

Have you tried adjusting your medication?Consult you physician before altering any medication:D

[jtolan]

Ha Ha, funny Joel. No , I don't claim to have heard God's voice speak audibly to me if that's what you hint at. No sir. Just a thought, maybe its my brains thought maybe its sparked by his, I don't know. Where do thoughts come from anyway?

[Joel Wright]

Hi Jtolan My thoughts came from observing,good or bad right or wrong.A lot can be learned from the triumps or failures of others.This also holds true for nature.Observe and learn.I usally keep my thoughts to myself because of not wanting to offend others(as the lost of my one repution green dot proves)sorry whoever I offended ,its my humor was'nt it.O well you can't please ever one.

[Vic Hays]

At one point "Bessler" like fellows in his lucid "dreams" (which got very real after a while) started giving him useful info and then commands and he started obeying until the most dangerous command came "jump off a bridge, instant teleportation to heaven" and he did it. How sad, so yes, I'm very leary of "dream revealed info" especially when its not about God's purposes. There is a Devil out there, we shouldn't forget that.

Which brings up a good point. Would God want us to discover free energy?

I have to admit, I prayed about it a while back and the thought that flashed through my head was something like "you do it by yourself, I gave you a brain, if I tell you it will ruin it, and most likely you won't give God the glory" It's almost as if the process is more important then the goal.

What do you guys think?

There is a rather famous instrument that was revealed in a dream. An Adventist man had a dream about the Doug fir beetle. It has a kind of square head and cuts under the bark with a side to side motion. The angel held up the chain in his dream and voila, the oregon chainsaw chain. This chain works with square cutters that cut first on one side and then the other like the fir beetle. The company history doesn't speak of the dream, but I remember reading the story a number of years ago. It was the angel in the dream that gave him the idea to adapt the beetle design to a chain.

Question: Was this dream from God a blessing or a curse? Thousands of people have been employed as a result. We have a much more efficient way to destroy forests.


http://www.oregonchain.ca/company/history.shtm

Blount Canada Ltd. has its origins in Portland, Oregon U.S.A. where logger Joe Cox designed and patented a cutter for a saw chain that led to a revolution in woodcutting. He had observed timber beetle larvae and marveled at the efficiency of the little creature's twin cutters.

Thus inspired, he set about modifying a C -shaped cutter and tremendously increased the cutting efficiency of the chain saw. This new design of cutter, lead to the founding of the Oregon Saw Chain Company in 1947 in a modest basement shop. Cox's invention and the establishment of his company, had a profound impact on commercial and later, consumer saw chain users.

[Techstuf]

Christ raised people from the dead, and miraculously healed them on the Sabbath day......NO work was to be done on the Sabbath and they wanted to stone him for it.....Of course, when it was pointed out that any one of them would rescue their mule should it fall into a hole on the Sabbath....it gave them pause for reflection.


What do you suppose their descendants would like to do to a modern day counterpart of Bessler....who might threaten their 'golden calf'?

Sabbath or no Sabbath

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[ovyyus]

Pull on a single string and sometimes a tapestry of truth unfolds... http://jmm.aaa.net.au/articles/9517.htm

[Vic Hays]

What do you suppose their descendants would like to do to a modern day counterpart of Bessler....who might threaten their 'golden calf'?

Sabbath or no Sabbath

!

The world has always fought against God. What is the golden calf of the world today? Money, political power, fame? The world will try to destroy or steal from a modern day Bessler. no change.

The sabbath as the Jews saw it and the sabbath as Jesus taught it were miles apart. Jesus was not doing work to benefit himself. The selfishness of men chose a literal "no work" so that they might not be obligated to help those in need.

[jtolan]

Interesting history Vic, thanks for posting. I love stories like this.
Don't worry Joel I won't take your last point away. LOL

Have a great Memorial Day weekend guys!!

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oh, I just noticed there are 2 pages to the tread.

I like what you say there Vic and Techstuf, Jesus was sure viewed as quite a liberal in his time. Whenever someone seems to threaten the way things are and seems to display "independent" thinking, two things can happen to the hearers, they get angry or start pondering (or maybe fall asleep, as in church LOL)

ovyyus, I took a look at your link there, interesting. I too belive there are codes in the bible (I read a book a while back, don't remember the name of it) but I see the codes as more of a validation that's it's more then an ordinary book. However, I belive most of the information is on the "surface". The bible's plain words certainly have plenty to offer as far as validation that's inspired by God or contains God's words, as its full of prophecies that have fulfilled. I won't go into details, but there are tons of prophecies just about Jesus (place of birth, mode of death, events surrounding his life, etc., and most importantly when he would arrive (see, Daniel 9) ) Then there are the other general prophecies about history, and other specific things here and there. Also, the point about Jesus talking in parables so only his disciples would understand is believed by the christian world to mean that the holy spirit would illuminate peoples understanding as they study the scriptures with a humbled spirit and prayfully. There are of course parables and not to be taken literally. (Like the parable about the kingdom of heaven, or the parable about the vineyard, and how the workers kill the owner's son, all pointing to his death. It's really no mystery to see now in retrospect, but at the time they must of wondered what he was talking about, even his disciples. )