Why bother posting?

[rlortie]

Preoccupied,

I am sorry, but I must have inadvertently installed the batteries in my energizer bunny backwards, it just keeps coming and coming!

[Ed]

Preoccupied, you haven't been here long enough to remember all the various conversations people on this forum have had. If you had, you'd be all like "I don't remember giving out details about my flying car and whatnot."

[rlortie]

Ralph how could you possibly know by what Jim_Mich said that it would not work? Can you give an example? He hasn't released his wheels design yet.

With what he did say and show in pictures of his PVC fittings, it was easy for any half witted person to see that it would not work. A little knowledge in fluid dynamics and mechanical fluid properties is easy to come by, suggest you learn how to use your browser.

http://engineering-references.sbainvent ... -water.php

Note the dynamic viscosity.

Ralph

[Dunesbury]

Ralph how could you possibly know by what Jim_Mich said that it would not work? Can you give an example? He hasn't released his wheels design yet.

Jim-mich gave example, mechanical maxwell's demon.

In jim-mich concept weights swap position, in and out, (or forward and backward, if it matters), relative to their old position at any instant in time, because mechanism forces them during dynamic rotation.

In Maxwell's demon, door is mechanism sorting , or forcing, molecules into two halves of container. It has been discussed and criticism is demon door can't operate at unity, i.e., it takes energy to open or close door to force difference between halves. Once container difference is exploited, work done on outside environment, container runs out of energy like any other closed system. Also, as molecules pass door, they would lose kinetic energy in new half of container, i.e., system would exist for extremely brief period.

Theoretically, as weights swap position they have exploitable difference of kinetic energy because of respective orbital radius, and this difference is transferred to wheel via levered impacts.
Impacts need to be perfect collisions according to physics, none of energy can be lost to sound, heat or deformation.
Not only do impacts not slow down weights, mechanisms must accelerate weights after impact to prepare for next impact. Remember about 8 impacts of about 4 pound weights every minute are accelerating unknown mass of wheel. About 32 pounds a minute accelerating 12 foot oak wheel of unknown mass.
What do you think?

[rlortie]

Dunesburry wrote:

In jim-mich concept weights swap position, in and out, (or forward and backward, if it matters),

Some where some how you seem to forget that the discussion is about his liquid powered wheel, not using weights.

And yes! for what it is worth forward and backwards and/or in and out does matter. It is a point that I spoke of only to be scoffed!

Maxwell can take his demon and do in nature what he does best! He moves high pressure areas into low pressure areas, we call it "Wind" and with temperatures running like they have been here, I wish he would open the damn door.

[rlortie]

I believe I've finished step 'A'. I believe I've found the principle, the concept, the solution. I believe very strongly that I know exactly how Bessler's wheel works. I believe I know how his one-way wheels worked. I believe I know how his two-way wheels worked.

Now I have that song by Tom Jones stuck in my thoughts and cannot get it out!

[cloud camper]

Here we have a recent presumably legitimate all permanent magnet motor that has yet to be debunked (as far as I know)

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory: ... gnet_Motor

Does this represent a man made Maxwell's Demon? Decide for yourself!

(Some of the links seem to have disappeared)

[rlortie]

CC,

As for being recent, you had better check the date on you posted link!

On May 03, 2010, AnandAadhar wrote at Overunity.com:

I have tested the rotor principle of Yildiz according to his patent claim, with an ascending row of stator magnets inside and a linear row outside in a set-up of 9:14:17 for inner stator, rotor and outer stator. The rotor magnets were 10 degrees out of alignment. The result was like with the Perendev thing. No tendency for rotation, rather a good brake than a good motor. So according to this test his patent claim seems to be bullshit to impress investors. Possibly a scammer indeed.

EDIT!!!: Sorry I did not see this at first: Update: Test of 5 kW system pending May 2013; just finished demo at Inventors Expo in Geneval, April 10-14. See http://YildizDemo.com

Quite a coincidence, one of the Army Corps of Engineers that paid me a visit yesterday was talking about something similar to this. I am still waiting for him to send me the link. Mentioned something about AC induction used as a magnet attracting non-ferrous metals.

I loaded him down with five ferrous speaker magnets and a milk carton full of books on magnets and electronics. He left with a gracious thank you and a smile!

[Dunesbury]

Dunesburry wrote:

In jim-mich concept weights swap position, in and out, (or forward and backward, if it matters),

Some where some how you seem to forget that the discussion is about his liquid powered wheel, not using weights.

And yes! for what it is worth forward and backwards and/or in and out does matter. It is a point that I spoke of only to be scoffed!

Maxwell can take his demon and do in nature what he does best! He moves high pressure areas into low pressure areas, we call it "Wind" and with temperatures running like they have been here, I wish he would open the damn door.

You forget it doesn't matter what state of matter weight is in. Mass in motion is mass in motion.

How do you think it matters whether movement is in and out or forward and backward relative to wheel movement?

Wind is result of heat and pressure equalization. Using that analogy Maxwell's demon would be sun, creating heat and pressure difference.

[preoccupied]

I don't think any of you can follow what Jim_Mich has said when he talks about his wheels. Therefore I think it's impossible to know what he could possibly be trying to do when he designed his wheel. My motion wheel design that followed my hypothesis for shifting weights for my #flyingcar could possible work as a water wheel and then it might be easier to construct, hypothetically than if weights are used. Personally I think it's a matter of ingenuity. I think a belt and a pole would be easier. I do not know Jim_mich wheel design but this design, here that I have posted in this thread, IS Bessler's wheel and also would work. I believe this because I believe my #flyingcar idea is good.

Please look at MS painting "what is Jim_Mich" wheel. In it you have my weight shifting wheel but instead there is pipes full of water. At the elbow of each arm of the swastika there is a pouch and at the arm-pit/shoulder there is a pouch. If you followed my other design closely enough then you will know that gravity pulls down on the upper right side of the wheel and lets two arms fall. The two arms fall into the inside or from the outside, as they only alternate on either the inside or outside. You should know this if you wanted to understand my previous design post but I feel like it needs clarification... When the arm of the swastika is at a right angle the pouch at the elbow is closed and the pouch at the shoulder fills. I will be honest I threw this together too quickly, like in less than a minute, and I didn't mean there to be a pouch in the center at the shoulder, just two pouches at the elbows. The pouches actually trade from the falling weight/lever to the weight/lever that shifts from left to right. The bottom right lever shifts to the right and the top left weight shifts to the left.

I think this could be Jim_Mich wheel because it is also my wheel and I believe my wheel is the correct wheel. If Jim_mich has the correct wheel then he has my wheel based on my logic. Therefore me and Jim_Mich have the same wheel. I think Jim_Mich might think this wheel would work by the water moving outer further from the axle as the wheel turns and that centrifugal force is added to the rotation of the wheel, adding energy to the wheel. I fundamentally disagree with that if that is what he thinks, and if this is the same wheel design he has. I believe that the weight/lever changes direction that it adds extra force towards where it was going, if extra force or more force than is "possible" tries to change its direction. I stand by the notion that CF is not a force but that motion without external force is a force, and is merely redirected kinetic energy.

This is my design. I do not know if it is Jim_Mich design but I think that it is. I am sorry if I have revealed the same design as Jim_Mich because he spent so much time protecting it for himself. I have been toying with swastika designs because before my head injuries I was certain that I had a working swastika design perpetual motion machine and other things of value that I had forgotten. Jim_Mich is helpful and intelligent and nice to forum members and for whatever reason you guys are splitting hairs over everything he says and it's insane. You are all insane when it comes to Jim_Mich. He is a nice guy and he might actually have Bessler's wheel. I think that this is Bessler's wheel and if Jim_Mich has Bessler's wheel that it might actually be the same as what I have here. Personally, I think the water method might not be as good as shifting weights with a belt and rod.

Show some respect for Jim_Mich. Show some respect for your elderly, you youngsters.

EDIT my design actually uses a lever on a lever where the lever/pouch bends out on the tip of a swastika arm and not at the swastika elbow... I kind of jumped into this particular post. My apologies, to you.

[Dunesbury]

Dax,
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5MGBEbo1gmA

[rlortie]

Dunesbury

rfartie wrote:

If you wish to make it formal that's; Mr. I R Fartie to whom you are addressing. But I do not like the use of pseudonyms. I have enough problems of trying to remember who is who.

What ever it takes to get your kicks!

[Dunesbury]

Then I would be Mr. Dunesburry, lol.
To keep simple, call me Dunes.
That is very close to my real name.

[rlortie]

Ok! Dunes, for some unknown reason I usually go by 'Ralph'

[rlortie]

Dunes asks a question:

How do you think it matters whether movement is in and out or forward and backward relative to wheel movement?

I have been reviewing some ideas that involve the x-y-Z plane, if you cannot get the weight up, swing it back axial, parallel with the axle.

Ralph