Tired of Jim_Mich ??

[Ed]

Cloud Camper,you made very serious statements about Jim Mich's character on this thread and on this page...

Would you like some serious evidence to support what cloud said, or would you just call it a tirade? Have you been here long enough to have see all the behavior "us guys" are referring to, or have you searched the forum and seen it first hand?

[rasselasss]

Ed,you still have not answered the questions ,how many times must i ask?

[rasselasss]

Cloud Camper,you made very serious statements about Jim Mich's character on this thread and on this page...

Would you like some serious evidence to support what cloud said, or would you just call it a tirade? Have you been here long enough to have see all the behavior "us guys" are referring to, or have you searched the forum and seen it first hand?

.....Now i understand why you won't answer the questions i asked ......you can't "have see "them...LOL

[Ed]

Ed,you still have not answered the questions ,how many times must i ask?

Irritating...isn't it? Now you've experienced one of Jim's behaviors that prevents him from resolving issues with people, IMO.

You twisted my words. I said "not here long enough to take sides", not "voice an opinion".

Now start answering some of my questions and I'll finish with yours.

[Ed]

Cloud Camper,you made very serious statements about Jim Mich's character on this thread and on this page...

Would you like some serious evidence to support what cloud said, or would you just call it a tirade? Have you been here long enough to have see all the behavior "us guys" are referring to, or have you searched the forum and seen it first hand?

.....Now i understand why you won't answer the questions i asked ......you can't "have see "them...LOL

Huh?

[rasselasss]

Quid Pro Quo......read your post Ed.....

[Ed]

Quid Pro Quo......read your post Ed.....

I know what I said. Do you know what you wrote? I'm not playing your game. I've already given your some answers. Now it's your turn.

How do I know I'm not talking to Jim right now?

[rasselasss]

Pointless trying to converse with you Ed your English Comprehension skills are limited and you also Paranoid ....Discussion closed...

[Ed]

Pointless trying to converse with you Ed your English Comprehension skills are limited and you also Paranoid ....Discussion closed...

It might as well be closed, since you won't answer a single one of my questions, even though I've answered some of yours.

Yeah, my comprehension of crappy English grammar is limited.

[preoccupied]

It seems like every time I post about Jim_Mich being a good guy that my green dots disappear. I've lost like 5 green dots, where I would gain some and then lose them again after being positive towards Jim_Mich. I don't know if it's worth it. Seriously, why bother? Jim_Mich are you going to talk about Bessler wheel anymore or just about the bullying? I might have zero green dots soon, and I swear it's just because I am participating in this hazardous topic. What's worse, I have shared the real Bessler wheel and it hasn't sunk into people's beliefs yet. I'm 90% sure of it.

Pre - if you would spend 15 minutes on a good simulator you would find your
idea does not work.

This is why you have received no responses.

You've got to do a little better than throw a couple MS Paint diagrams together then identify yourself with Bessler.

Alright, you got a good point. I will fully acknowledge how you are right. Lets take a simulator in which was programmed to simulate physics before the Mould Effect was announced at Cambridge University. Then lets use that simulator to find the Mould Effect or the chain fountain. If we can do that, I would gladly use that simulator to test my swastika wheel design that is the perpetual motion version of my hypothesis. NO SUCH simulator exists at points in time before the Mould Effect. I Fundamentally disagree with the Mould Effect. I think that instead of the center of gravity kicking on the level ground it is lifted from, that the beads on the chain at the top of the fountain push themselves up while in the air. It doesn't make sense to have a Mould Effect because a class two lever has no leverage when lifted up on in which to kick up from. Class one would but not class two. My hypothesis needs to be programmed into the simulator IN order to simulate anything, and it is that more force in a new direction produces a shift of space itself (not a shift in position in space) in the original direction. Simulations can't calculate this because it's inventing a new force for why, why it would work. This is also the exact reason why Jim_Mich didn't like your simulations, other than that they didn't have the correct design, because he said that the physics were being invented by him. Jim_Mich was inventing new physical hypothesizes that he was not fully disclosing. However, I'm disclosing exactly what my hypothesis is. You can't just refute me without at least acknowledge my idea. Please acknowledge it. I'm not mad, just a little befuddled by the busy day.

[cloud camper]

OK Pre - I acknowledge that you're thinking about the problem and are trying to be creative.

But since you have hypothesized a reaction that no physicist in history has ever observed and no simulator is programmed as you would like, you are now forced to build physical wheels to demonstrate your hypothesis.

You are in good company here as Bessler had no simulators to work with and was forced to build actual wheels. More than one hundred if I'm not too far off.

You should certainly be good for maybe a couple dozen, right?

Please don't expect a rat's worth of respect until you have fully documented and proven with working wheels that your concept is valid.

It doesn't matter what anyone on the BW forum thinks of your concept.
The only judge that matters is what Mother Nature thinks and Momma is a mean bitch. You play by her rules or you don't play.

Incidentally, you might research the Euler force. It was one of the last actual physical forces discovered and it seems to correlate vaguely with your concept.

It is another fictitious force which probably isn't going to help you much. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler_force

See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotating_reference_frame

Good luck and report your progress!

[Furcurequs]

Would you like some serious evidence to support what cloud said, or would you just call it a tirade? Have you been here long enough to have see all the behavior "us guys" are referring to, or have you searched the forum and seen it first hand?

.....Now i understand why you won't answer the questions i asked ......you can't "have see "them...LOL

Huh?

It appears the fellow who can't see(m) to string enough words together to make more than one pseudo-paragraph per post chose to make an issue over your obvious typo rather than to actually address the substance of your post.

I have see(n) now that he will do just about anything to avoid a real conversation or address the real issues - not too unlike jim_mich himself, huh?

Dwayne

[Furcurequs]

Cloud Camper,you made very serious statements about Jim Mich's character on this thread and on this page...

When jim_mich chooses to lie to everyone in the forum and to impugn the integrity of honest, intelligent and capable people - even including people demonstrably more honest, intelligent and capable than himself - it is indeed a serious issue, though.

Now, if you were honest, intelligent and capable yourself, you might actually want to investigate the evidence before repeating again some ignorant and uninformed mere opinion, wouldn't you? ...and if you happen to have any real engineering experience, as do I, you would of course even want to check over his mistaken math that he claimed wasn't mistaken and then see if it was really in any way justified for him to accuse the member who tried to help him with that mistaken math, by showing how to do it correctly of course, of "bashing" him at all.

Sadly, you will see that there is indeed evidence that jim_mich has lied. ...and that's just one instance - or maybe that's two?

Anyway, that, again, is if you pull your head out from where the sun don't shine and actually look, of course.

In some things the "opinions" of ignorant people simply do not matter. If you want to talk "opinions" instead, we should be talking about our favorite flavors of ice cream or something like that!

What we are discussing is now a matter of evidence based fact. Fanboy mere opinions don't matter. Opinion polls themselves don't matter.

The actual evidence says we have a liar in our midst! ...and his name is jim_mich.

Hey, that sort of rhymes!

;)

Dwayne

[rlortie]

Riortie,possibly if more use had been made of the "ignore"facility we would'nt have this destructive debacle to-day.......its sad to see this Forum self destructing....we can only hope,when this poll about Jim Mich is over ALL the members respect the result and normality can resume..

Don't worry about self destructing!

like a trailer for a new movie or a serial where your left hanging on a precipice waiting for the next chapter. Members are visiting if only to catch up on this thrilling drama! Beats watching new and used car commercials 15 minutes out of a 1 hour show!

Besides it also gives you character insight to the players or should I say actors? You refer to me as "Riortie", it does not matter, I will address any issue aimed my way, but for the record my name is Ralph E. Lortie 'rlortie' is my mind bending (that will throw them) pseudonym. This is in jest of course, a typo is a typo!

Cannot wait until the next thrilling chapter! Who is in the barrel, is it, Jim, Ed, me, or maybe preoccupied?

Damn I wish I could remember what it was that I pointed out to Jim forcing him to request Bill to remove. Must have been awful important, funny thing is, if it were of value, you would think I would remember it!

Ralph

[rlortie]

Dwayne wrote:

In some things the "opinions" of ignorant people simply do not matter. If you want to talk "opinions" instead, we should be talking about our favorite flavors of ice cream or something like that!

Ah shucks! My opinion is; we should discuss intrinsic, exothermic, hermetically sealed perpetual motion wheels. My opinion thinks they do not necessarily have to be like Bessler's, you cannot prove it one way or the other anyway!

My opinion also says that the ignorant stand as good a chance if not better than the learned in solving this mystery of history. (Wow! another rhyme)

I hate chocolate Ice cream but love caramel, butterscotch, and pecan!

Ralph