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Cloud camper keeps saying that the forum is tired of Jim_Mich. Should he leave?

Poll ended at Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:29 pm

Yes, Jim_Mich should leave the forum. I'm sick of him.
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Don't care if Jim_Mich stays of leaves. Makes no difference.
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No, Jim_Mich should stay. His ideas are interesting
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"but love caramel, butterscotch, and pecan!"


And don't forget the Malt topping ! ...MMMMMmmmmm

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I like the hot fudge on ice cream. I don't know why but I think the old country buffet fudge is great but people say it's cheap.
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Yeah , I dunno Preoccupied ,

Hot fudge is going to melt the ice cream and make the whole creation look like a bit of an abortion !

How about cool fudge ?

It would definitely taste great , but we don't want it to look cheap .

If you really want it hot we could sprinkle a bit of Cayenne pepper on the top - that might do it ! It would probably take the cheap partly melted look off it anyway .

Now that's something chicks would go for : ) Something to give them a bit of a buzz .

Wonder if it's possible to Copyright an Ice Cream ?


P.S. A bit off topic - but while Dax is off camping , probably wrestling with bears and suchlike, - now would be a good time to dump him ! -

- that would be one stirrer less ! then we would only have about 6 others to go !

Come to think of it that's about half the forum - maybe that wouldn't work so good .

It would probably be hard to get them all to go camping at the same time and there wouldn't be anyone left to post I would think .

But if we could pull it off it would probably be one hell of a camping trip ! : )

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I would go camping with you Art. I have enough campsuds for the both of us, as I use it in regular baths for cold showers on occasions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb0h8ZKvJW4

Hot fudge is normal to put on ice cream. You don't know your ice cream Art. It's not piping hot and does not melt the ice cream very quickly. But the combination of warm and cold is nice and the fudge tastes better and has more of a liquid viscosity when warm.

This forum is small, is that right? I just shared how to make a perpetual motion machine and opened up how to understand all of gravity, including flyingcar, perpetual motion machine using gravity, and artificial gravity, and this forum is small... It will sink in eventually that I am right and the this forum may or may not be small but I will be big. I will be big! Yeah that's what she said. =-D
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Well I already have cold showers but for a different reason !
About a year ago I worked out that my warm showers were costing me about $200 a quarter for electricity and turned off my hot water heater.

My showers don't take 5 minutes though ! I live on what we call a mountain here (but is really only 1000 Metres) ,but it still gets pretty cold in winter -the water had Ice on it about two weeks ago . A 50 seconds shower works good for me.

You're right though , taking cold showers does give you determination ! With me it's looking forward to having some warm showers powered by a big rotating wheel in my yard that seems to keep me focused

I think with your theories it has been a bit of a situation of giving so much that in comparison the forum appears small : )

I wouldn't mind seeing your dumbbell experiment being elaborated on . I do think we have a lot to learn about inertial reactions . But you are blazing new trails so you need to build to get the demonstratable proof !

I bet you that with just about two months of cold showers you could be building some neat stuff !

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rlortie wrote:Dwayne wrote:
In some things the "opinions" of ignorant people simply do not matter. If you want to talk "opinions" instead, we should be talking about our favorite flavors of ice cream or something like that!
Ah shucks! My opinion is; we should discuss intrinsic, exothermic, hermetically sealed perpetual motion wheels. My opinion thinks they do not necessarily have to be like Bessler's, you cannot prove it one way or the other anyway!

My opinion also says that the ignorant stand as good a chance if not better than the learned in solving this mystery of history. (Wow! another rhyme)

I hate chocolate Ice cream but love caramel, butterscotch, and pecan!

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Yeah, there are still plenty of perpetual motion and Bessler topics that at least for now can only be a matter of opinion, and like you say, concerning Bessler, even if someone could get a "perpetual motion" working we couldn't prove it was the same as his.

If someone were to actually get a "free energy" type machine of some kind working, though, I think I'd have a very hard time calling that person "ignorant" - even if he didn't have a formal education.

"Lacking knowledge or awareness in general" or "uneducated or unsophisticated"

Because of the first meaning there, I'd have to say the one person who saw what everyone else in the world had been overlooking since who knows when would hardly be ignorant. That person would have to be very aware, observant and perceptive - not to mention insightful and maybe truly inspired.

If it's possible, I believe maybe the main factor in someone's success might ultimately be more related to his individual personality rather than whether or not he was formally educated. Considering my own speculative notions, they seem to be derived from a combination of things I've observed on my own and also things I was taught.

If I proved to be successful, then, I couldn't dismiss either my formal education or my own "follow my inspiration" sort of independent thought. I think I'd have to say, though, that a few fundamental engineering principles that were in the back of my mind may actually play an important role - again if successful.

A lot of valuable information is covered in a structured formal education which might truly be beneficial to know. What one is taught certainly doesn't have to limit one's thinking, either, but I can see how it might with people with some personality types.

I spent more time in class daydreaming than thinking about class stuff, anyway, so it's not like they were brainwashing me.

...hmm...

If you watch the Walter Lewin MIT physics videos, you'll see that he does plenty of physical demonstrations as he teaches the stuff. I fail to see how that could not be a good thing. How many people would cover all that stuff if just left to their own devices?

...anyway, just some "opinions" there.

Butter pecan is the best ice cream, though! That's a fact! Not an opinion! What's wrong with you people?! You are wrong!! Your favorite ice cream should be butter pecan!

Wait?! Did I say butter pecan was the best? I meant to say butter pecan was the worst! ...eww... ...eww... You really DO NOT even want to try butter pecan! Really! (...hehe... ...more butter pecan for me!!)

Well, anyway, that's one of them. ...and then there's mint chocolate chip and a good natural vanilla and sorry, Ralph, even chocolate. OH, OH! ...and the Dairy Queen has a nice Blueberry Blizzard and then there's the Hawaiian Blizzard that has coconut and pineapple in it!!

It's about time for some ice cream, I think. Unfortunately I don't have any here. :(

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Furcurequs you were ridiculously silly. You clown. Am I influencing your? I think that I am. I have acted silly. I'm sorry about that. I want to be more serious now. I have found what I think really is Bessler's wheel and I've shared it several times recently.
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Preoccupied,

You wish to get serious, you think you have found the answer and have shared it. Quit thinking and do!

Go buy yourself some ice cream bars that come on a stick, or go to the drug store and purchase some tongue depressors. Order a pizza to go and use the carton to make your disk. Use thumb tacks to put it together and whatever is handy for weights. On second thought use quarters for weights, then you can say your lifting four quarters with a quarter!

Build a Proof Of Principle and whether it works or not you will be comparable with jim_mich and his PVC wheel!

I ain't signing this!
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rlortie you could build this wheel in your shop in an hour. The best I can do is draw pictures at the moment. This shows the difference in skill level, but I mean that you are very talented and I am not. Don't push me! I can't do what you do.

You don't know what Jim_Mich design is. Nobody does. You get to know exactly what my design is. Shown here is the method to shift the weight in the second quadrant. I have a belt on a conveyor vertical to shift the second quadrant. A rod connects to the circle which then turns the axle which then shifts the weight. The hypothesis is that the axle takes on motion without external force to the right on the second quadrant because the weight is shifting to the left on the lever. The circle is definitely necessary or hypothetically necessary so that the axle acts like the shoulders on the dumb bell experiment or what I mean is that if the lever connects to the rod directly that it might not work right. Like, it's not "leverage" it's anti gravity that is being developed. So the position of the lever does matter maybe and a rod directly connected to the lever might change where the motion without external force travels. I want the motion without external force to hit the axle, just like it does my shoulders on the dumb bell experiment - the dumb bell experiment is the data I am using to base this whole design off of and that I think the chain fountain that is shown on youtube by Steve Mould is caused by my description of motion without external force.

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I show the rods in the MS painting shifting 90 degrees but it should be like 45 or less because that is how much the weights shift. Sorry guys. Drawing error. Not that you would expect any less of me *wink*.
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Preoccupied,

Sorry but I cannot build your design, not in an hour or ever!

Your drawings are incomplete and I have no idea of what it is or how it is supposed to work. You speak of gears and conveyor belts yet nothing of this sort appears in your drawings which are constantly changing.

I give Tarsier79 and any other member who has responded to your posts a big kudos for basically understanding your drawings and text, for I cannot!

As for your dumbbell experiment, I will attempt to describe my opinion of what is happening.

Not unlike a pendulum reaching amplitude the mass stops, dynamic inertia becomes static inertia. Although GPe is present the static inertia needs to be overcome starting descent. When you pull down against this static inertia you feel yourself raising, The faster you can perform this feat of beating gravity to the punch the more lift you achieve in your body.

An example is a steam locomotive pulling itself forward by converting reciprocating force into radial. That part of the drive wheel making contact with the rail is in a state of static inertia.

Suggest you acquaint yourself to "Zeno's Paradox of motion"

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My designs are not meant to be changing. I have memory difficulty a little and my mechanical drawing ability is rock bottom because of the same difficulties. I think if I spend some time working on the specifics and less on other stuff and brief moments to comment on forum that I would make specifications that you would be able to build and understand rlortie
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