jim_mich wrote:eccentrically1 wrote:It's a fact that inertia is a description of a body's resistance to change in its velocity. It's not even a force!
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Over eight MILLION hits concerning the phrase "Inertial Force"
That's not a surprise, there are over 19 million hits for unicorns, a fictitious type of horse.
Inertia most definitely produces a force. So don't give me any crap that it’s not a force. It is the negative force which must be acted against for a body to accelerate. And depending upon your frame of reference is can also be a positive force.
It's not crap. Inertial force on wikipedia, the online encyclopedia we all love to use, redirects to fictitious force. So inertia, or, a body’s inertial mass, produces a fictitious force, if you prefer saying it that way. A real force, like friction for instance, can exist in either an inertial frame or a non-inertial frame.
eccentrically1 wrote:A mechanical maxwell's demon is as impossible as the thermodynamic demon. The demon consumes energy sorting the moving molecules. He would consume more than he could convert.
Yes, a thermodynamic Maxwell's Demon is theoretically possible if/when the Demon consumes less energy sorting than is produced by the results.
Anything is theoretically possible. I should have said a mechanical maxwell’s demon is even more impossible than a thermodynamic one.
My mechanical Maxwell's Demon "name" is simply the closest analogical words that I can find to describe process whereby the weights of a PM wheel gain energy from their motions.
With James Clerk Maxwell's Demon, thermal energy is transferred from colder air to warmer air. Now this is thought to be impossible. Except that Maxwell envisioned it as possible IF and WHEN individual air molecules were sorted according to their velocity, which is the kinetic energy content of the individual air molecules. Such sorting requires energy. Maxwell's Demon is overunity only if it can sort using little or no energy.
My PM wheel does something similar, but not the same... At this point, while writing this, I attempted to describe my Maxwell's Demon process without giving away enough of the details, which would cost me my patent rights. I had most of the description typed up. But as I read it over, the same thing happened as always happens. No matter how hard I attempt to convey the Mechanical Maxwell's Demon without disclosing TOO MUCH so as to loose patent rights, it just can't be done. Describing the process in any more detail than simply calling it a mechanical Maxwell's Demon gives the method away.
Your PM wheel? So you built your demon idea and it works ?
Cloud camper modeled what he THOUGHT was my mechanisms, based upon the words that I had used to describe it, but in which word I had left out the same one or two words that Bessler said might give the secret away.
And thus I must be vague. But once the principle is known, then Bessler's words all fall into place. And his descriptions are dead on. Bessler figured out exactly how far he could go with describing his wheel mechanism. He omitted only one or two words from his description. So if you want a description of my wheel, go read Bessler's description. But read the actual original words, because some of his words have not been translated exactly correct. Some of Bessler's words have be misconstrued. People have put meaning to Bessler's words that are not in the original context.
So, eccentrically1, trying to claim that inertia is not even a force falls far short of any argument. Inertia and momentum are simply different word for the same effect, but it is looking at the effect from different planes of reference. Both involve acceleration of an object. One is positive acceleration. One is negative acceleration, which it is the custom to call deceleration. Both involve the changing of the velocity, speed, or direction of a weight mass.
momentum is the product of mass and velocity. It’s not the same as inertia.
Bessler describes his weights as moving, one in and one out, and then they swap. This is the perfect description of weights manipulating inertial resistance to acceleration and momentum resistance to deceleration, which involves transferring of motional KE from weight to weight, so as to increase the ectropy of the whole unit, not unlike Maxwell's idea of transferring heat KE from on side of a vessel to the other side. In both cases, the result in an increase of ectropy. It is the increase of usable harnessable kinetic energy. And though Maxwell's Demon required energy input, my mechanism requires only the initial rotational startup input, without adding continual additional KE like as is required by normal thermodynamic heat engines.
Mechanism, schmechanism.