Mayday! Mayday!!!

[Trevor Lyn Whatford]

Hi Raj,

First let me say how clever your design is, there is nothing wrong with your wheel arrangement that bit would work as you predicted.

The problem I can see is that you are trying to lift more weight than you have to work with, wherein the only usable force is the very small amount of imbalance weight to lift true weight.

I can only base what you are trying to do here on similar experiments I have done myself and I post this one as a example, this was built but did not work because of the fore mentioned problem, I must have built about 6 similar design that all failed for the same reason but this one maybe the nearest to the design you have shown here.

http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/download.php?id=8177

[raj]

Hello Trevor L W,

I agree that model concept testing would be the only way to prove anything.

I am not that good in mechanical drawing, less so in 3D.

Nevertheless I have tried to show how this new gravity wheel drawing will look in 3D.

1. The drumwheel with larger inner rims and broken axles (in black ink)

2 smaller inner wheel/s (in red ink) rolling on inside larger inner rims, on axle (in green ink) geared 1:1 to axle of drumwheel, by belts(in blue ink).

Raj

[raj]

I am working on this gravity wheel design for the past four months.

I am over 100 % confident that this is going to be a WORKING wheel.

Unfortunately due to some family commitments (my son's wedding next month), I am unable to take up seriously the prototype building.

I promise you will be the first to see this patent pending (Patent Application Number: GB 1503898.7 filed on 08/03/2015) working prototype, even if it will take a long time.

Raj

[daanopperman]

Hi raj ,

The only problem I see with your new design is the doule connection between the wheels , you have nr 5 connected to nr 2 via nr 6 , but you have also nr 7 connected to nr 1 via nr 9 . At 6 o clock the wheels will turn the same speed , but at 12 there will be a slow down of the nr 1 wheel connection points , for the wheels is on 2 different axe's .

[raj]

My dear Daano,

I can assure you that both wheels WILL turn at the same rpm continuously, if and when they rotate.

Raj

[daanopperman]

HI raj ,

I did not dispute the velocity of the 2 wheels , you did not follow what I said . Below is a drawing to show the difference in the connection points between the 2 wheels . The lifting will speed up as the wheels turn , and the descending will slow down . When the big wheel is lifting , it will also try to lift itself for it is connected to the weights it is trying to lift .

[raj]

Dear Daano,
I am afraid you got it wrong.

1. My drawing above is a 2D drawing, showing THREE wheels: A LARGE outer wheel, a second MEDIUM wheel rolling on INSIDE rim of large outer wheel and a third smaller INNER wheel with its axle rolling freely and seperately in MEDIUM wheel's HUB.
2. Broken Axles of LARGER outer wheel and axle of smaller INNER wheel are geared by belts in a 1:1 ratio, making them forcefully turn at the same rpm regardless.
2. Weights are connected (a) on swinging RIGID arms on rim of LOWER smaller INNER wheel and (b) connected on swinging cords on rim of UPPER large OUTER wheel.
3, Cords are used ONLY for lifting the weights and not for turning the wheels.
4. Look at my second drawing (in color) above. It's my attempt to show ( in 3D) how the three wheels work together.

Kindly refer back to my posts from the 8th of March 2015.

Thanks.

Raj

[raj]

Greetings to All!

Since my gravity wheel concept testing prototype build is a long way away, I would be grateful to you, if you could kindly clarify this for me:

Has Bessler mentioned anywhere in his clues or else, that he used three wheels and/or discs, two of which forming a figure 8 in his design???

I seem to remember having read something similar on this forum, but not exactly where on the forum, so that I could check if my recollection is good.

Thank you.

Raj

[eccentrically1]

No, he didn't. I think it was John Collins that has used the figure eight (as the infinity symbol) talking about his wheels. But Bessler never did to my knowledge. None of the clues about the wheels seem to indicate he used two (or one) small wheels inside the outer one.

[raj]

Thanks a lot Eccentrically1.

A positive answer would show that I MAY BE in Bessler's track.

A negative answer would show that I am on MY OWN NEW track towards a solution.

Thanks again.

Raj

[raj]

By the way, I never attempted in my hundreds of wheel designs to use or imitate any of Bessler's clues or MT drawings, PRIOR to conceiving fresh new ideas.

Sometimes after completion of Fresh NEW wheel Concepts, after posting them here on this forum, some similarity with Besslers clues and drawings becomes apparent.

Raj

[zoelra]

Not sure if this would be considered a figure 8 ...

[raj]

Hi Folks!

I FOUND IT.

Here it is: Bessler crafted picture.

(1) It shows drawing of two wheels, a larger one with gear teeth inside rim and a smaller wheel with gear teeth outside rim, forming a figure 8. This is a clue that the smaller inner wheel will be geared inside the larger wheel.

(2) The second picture shows exactly how the smaller inner wheel will look inside the larger wheel.

I am MORE than convinced that I have finally design a WORKING wheel.

Raj

[raj]

While the concept testing prototype build of my final gravity wheel is in waiting, here is another drawing for those who still doubt the merit of my concept:

1. A larger(drum) wheel with smaller inner rims on broken hub/axles on either side (in thick black lines)
2. An INNER wheel (in thick red line)
3. Larger wheel with inner RIM and Inner Wheel are geared in 1:1 ratio, that is they rotate at same speed/rpm.
4. Inner Rim of Larger Wheel and Inner Wheel are of same radius/circmference.
4. Weights (in blue lines) hang/swing on (a) flexible cords( light black lines) from rim of Inner RIM of larger wheel and (b) rigid Arms (straight red lines) from rim of inner Wheel.

IN OTHER Words, each weight hangs/swings on two wheels of same radius and same rpm, simultanuously, starting from the 12 o'clock position on the upper wheel and from the 6 o'clock position on the lower wheel, when flexible cord and rigid arm are stretched in a straight perpendicular vertical position.
The torque by each weight will act EQUALLY on both wheels.

Look at the positions of the weights(in blue) in the drawing below and calculate the NET Torque.

If you disagree with me, don't be shy, tell me why.
Thank you.

Raj

[raj]

A better presentation: