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My experimentally wheel has finally arrived! You'll notice I added a copyright notice at the bottom of the image. (I don't want it to be used by 'unbelievers' as an example for them to target.) But fellow Bessler enthusiasts feel free to check it out, copy it!, ask questions about it whatever. It is probably hard to tell the size from the photo but it is about 36" high and the 'spokes' are removable/movable.
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Hi Patrick,
hope you had seen Josef's wheel which I showed nearly a year ago on my hompage. There was a hard way to get it running. If you need any help for the internal-mechanism, please ask your questions. What I can see, that you are real doing something, and not only talking, as others
on the board. I will post my wheel also to the board, so that you can compare it with yours.

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Hi Georg;
I saw the big wheel on your webpage with the handle on the side. That is quite a creation!
For my wheel the first thing I did naturally was to give it a spin. A solid half-strength pull made it run in one direction for 3 min 42 seconds and still bobbing back and forth after more than 12 mins. I guess that has a plus (it has a very smooth low friction axle) and a negative, (it may take forever to try and test the various different weight configurations).
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Hi Patrick,
nice wooden wheel,
but how is it supposed to work ?
Did you post somewhere else its function ?


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Hi Stefan;
This wheel as you see it is simply a test framework. It allows me to experiment using a number of different weights in multiple configurations. I will try and post photos of it when it is testing a specific concept.
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Patrick wrote:My experimentally wheel has finally arrived!
Holy Moly! That looks like the wheel that I done build for a guy in Schiller Park. Naw. It can't be. That would make this a small world for me to find that.
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Georg Künstler wrote: What I can see, that you are real doing something, and not only talking, as others on the board.


How do YOU know what everyone else is doing? Are you looking through the TV like Nixon used to do when we'd leave the room? Do I have to start covering the set with a towel again? :)
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Hi Grim,
I don't know, what everyone is doing. But I prefer that someone buildt a wheel and do tests. Only if you do own experiments you will see and get experiance. That, what you can do with experiments, you can't calculate before.

If you can calculate it, you must not do the experiment. This sentence is wrong !! If the calculation formular is incorrect you always get a 'weights canceled out', so you make no experiment. What was first a chicken or an egg.

I prefer, first the experiment, then the calculation.

The sentence was nothing against you. But there are people on this board which proof things wrong, which even had buildt anything.

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Hi Georg

I agree with you 100% on that point!

I was just pulling your leg! :)


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Schiller Park? - bad guess, I have no idea where that is.

A riddle for Tommitchy:
Madison, Monroe, Adams, Jackson
The presidents seem to be everywhere.
But please don't forget about Clinton & Lincoln,
at two one seven or four zero two, which one you use, it's up to you.
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Hi Georg;
... there are people on this board which proof things wrong, which (never) even had buildt anything.
I agree with your statement. I think it very important that we maintain a healthy amount of time in the workshop. It is the only effective way to come up with solid new ideas; and I think it was how Bessler was able to build something so extraordinary. He was always studying different trades with a direct hands-on approach. Hopefully someone will genuinely re-create/replicate his achievements soon.
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Patrick wrote:Schiller Park? - bad guess, I have no idea where that is.
???? Guess? Who said that was intended for you? Conscience?

I don't understand what the Tomitchy riddle refers to but try this.

Close Avenue. No cigar. Hirchberg.
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