Inegnuity v's Entropy 2 - Observations & Questions
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Just realised that the number five may have some significance to this discussion...
P=MV, and KE=1/2mV^2, therefore if both m & V = 2, P & KE converge at 4.
However if the value of either m or V increases by +1 such that P = 6, then KE = 6 or 9… So a value of P<4 represents a point of divergence between KE & P...
This struck me as potentially interesting because I was wondering how one might literally transfer P (as previously explained, in reality just a figure of speech - only energy can be truly "transferred", whereas P is instead induced). But in a situation where KE actually equals P, this distinction seems somewhat academic...
Might this be some kind "sweet spot"..?
Edit: multiple corrections not got there in the end (I'm posting from my phone at work..)
P=MV, and KE=1/2mV^2, therefore if both m & V = 2, P & KE converge at 4.
However if the value of either m or V increases by +1 such that P = 6, then KE = 6 or 9… So a value of P<4 represents a point of divergence between KE & P...
This struck me as potentially interesting because I was wondering how one might literally transfer P (as previously explained, in reality just a figure of speech - only energy can be truly "transferred", whereas P is instead induced). But in a situation where KE actually equals P, this distinction seems somewhat academic...
Might this be some kind "sweet spot"..?
Edit: multiple corrections not got there in the end (I'm posting from my phone at work..)
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Re: re: Inegnuity v's Entropy 2 - Observations & Questio
Like a cockroach come at night, this nibbling fiendish minute personage appears, leaves a dab of it's fecal matter, and then disappears into the night.ovyyus wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI0euMFAWF8
My question is (and it really should be everyone's): Why-oh-why is such a strangeness supported to the point of maintenance consistently of it's Five Greenies?
Might it be because they truly do all support one another, and fear LETHAL COLLAPSE of their mutually dependent Greenie standings, IF they were to not?
Now I do think we're getting somewhere.
CHEERS to all of you, my dear friends!
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re: Inegnuity v's Entropy 2 - Observations & Questions
It takes courage to actually build something in order to test a strongly held belief. An alternative is to endlessly waffle-on faux-poetic and draw up creepy lists.
re: Inegnuity v's Entropy 2 - Observations & Questions
The "F" man must have really hit the G-spot.
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re: Inegnuity v's Entropy 2 - Observations & Questions
That's it?
The only thing "creepy" around here is the cockroach that dares post nothing but jabs and needling of Greenie lessers.
Now tell us (since you chose to not respond to my previous, more subtle requests for information regarding your "Print Shop" and it's disappearance) did YOU actually paint (or make) your Bessler portrait that you once sold, or did you have someone else do it and append your name thereupon as it's creator?
If you do not answer this not unreasonable question after a fair time period, it may be construed by a reasonable mind pondering that you might not have.
"Silence connotes assent." - Correct statutory construction.
"In the face of an assertion (or charge), after a reasonable period of time, if a man does not refute it he occasions it." Maxim of Law
So as to avoid a charge per se from myself, did you or did you not yourself actually create the Bessler portrait that bears your name as artist?
You have seventy-two (72) hours to respond.
After then, it's onto the next step.
(Your anticipated usual technique of cockroach-style furtive silence gets you there. Remember, this is on-the-record publicly. Also it is known that you have sold product out of your country.)
J.
The only thing "creepy" around here is the cockroach that dares post nothing but jabs and needling of Greenie lessers.
Now tell us (since you chose to not respond to my previous, more subtle requests for information regarding your "Print Shop" and it's disappearance) did YOU actually paint (or make) your Bessler portrait that you once sold, or did you have someone else do it and append your name thereupon as it's creator?
If you do not answer this not unreasonable question after a fair time period, it may be construed by a reasonable mind pondering that you might not have.
"Silence connotes assent." - Correct statutory construction.
"In the face of an assertion (or charge), after a reasonable period of time, if a man does not refute it he occasions it." Maxim of Law
So as to avoid a charge per se from myself, did you or did you not yourself actually create the Bessler portrait that bears your name as artist?
You have seventy-two (72) hours to respond.
After then, it's onto the next step.
(Your anticipated usual technique of cockroach-style furtive silence gets you there. Remember, this is on-the-record publicly. Also it is known that you have sold product out of your country.)
J.
Cynic-In-Chief, BesslerWheel (Ret.); Perpetualist First-Class; Iconoclast. "The Iconoclast, like the other mills of God, grinds slowly, but it grinds exceedingly small." - Brann
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Re: re: Inegnuity v's Entropy 2 - Observations & Questio
Now Ed I really, really hope that you and I are not going to tangle again? There's just no point really, unless you like the sport of it?Ed wrote:The "F" man must have really hit the G-spot.
To what purpose, other than something subtly destructive or leading, did you post the above? What?
Now, we've not smoked the peace-pipe but I thought we sort of agreed to back-off from confrontations and stay in our respective parts of our shared bag like two deadly wolverines.
I would not have broached this very real issue of the portrait if it "he" had not taken yet more pointless girly jabs from hiding. It would have remained dormant as an issue for any pursuing.
But now, this allegedly-living outrage continues with his pokes, and so I've no choice but to press the matter, which I shall to conclusion. Maybe it will serve to shut him up but, then again maybe not. It might prove a tiny job for the Grim Reaper.
Let's not, OK?
(Also, Ed, so as to help make things a bit clearer to any interested parties, the "F" man took his little birdshot, and I fired back with buckshot. If he wants more, let him come at me again; I've an endless quantity of what he requires. What he did and implicitly threatened to do more-of so as to cause me harm (this to be taken as such because he DID reveal some parts of what was imparted to him in confidence by PM) really is beyond the Pale. Would such an unethical publishing of all of our correspondence cause me actual harm. No, I don't believe so. Would it him? Absolutely yes, for it would act to seriously diminish his credibility as an honest player. Thereafter, who could trust him with sending of any PM's? Would it serve to teach others how to construct the Prime Mover? Absolutely in no way would it. What lays on the tables is but strictly confirmational after-the-fact of discovery. Understand? Already, most members here are finished, toasted and roasted, as far as I am concerned. In light of this, best it might be that you all pray to whatever you do, that I am NOT, after all, "The One." Horrible thought, huh? Ha! And you thought Bessler was difficult.)
J.
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re: Inegnuity v's Entropy 2 - Observations & Questions
My point is, I think you like the sport of all of this, these various "outrages" you post about various people.primemignonite wrote:Ed, I really really hope you and I are not going to tangle again? There's just no point really, unless you like the sport of it?
You certainly won't win any friends (or dots) by interrupting Fletcher's thread and calling him names, even if he took a jab at you privately. Fletcher is one of the most respected members of this forum and for good reason.
You appear to be the one start something here, and for someone who is overly concerned with green dots, I would think you would conduct yourself a bit more graciously in public. It seems you want to have your dots and eat them too, like some version of pac-man.
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re: Inegnuity v's Entropy 2 - Observations & Questions
Ed, I've given up on dots and everyone here. Can't you tell?
Have been around for ten years and have conducted myself very well with individuals who have done likewise in-return. My first experience here was a bucket of cold water thrown in my face by yourself. You knew and tipped my intro. I am sure you knew of the pain it would serve to cause and it did. It was a very bad start ending the same way.
I tried to be friends with you and Bill, but various little treacheries intruded on the little project and all came-to-naught. (Remember the materials I shared with you even after your cruel greeting and fight/trial afterward? So does Bill re the ones I sent to him, I'm sure. WHAT did I get in-return but kicked in the teeth. And you expect me to view such treatment as pleasant and to give thanks, groveling for you masters' Greenies?
If so you must all be out of your minds as well as a pack of amateur sadists.
You are just ALL unworkable and cannot understand such a one as I. (How could you if truly you are not operatively human any longer?)
You claim to conduct your own self with grace and excoriate me for not doing-so? (No comment.)
I myself absolutely have and do with ones that reciprocate cleanly.
Five here I have found-so. Only five, and the rest of you . . . ?
As I've suggested . . . better pray.
J.
Have been around for ten years and have conducted myself very well with individuals who have done likewise in-return. My first experience here was a bucket of cold water thrown in my face by yourself. You knew and tipped my intro. I am sure you knew of the pain it would serve to cause and it did. It was a very bad start ending the same way.
I tried to be friends with you and Bill, but various little treacheries intruded on the little project and all came-to-naught. (Remember the materials I shared with you even after your cruel greeting and fight/trial afterward? So does Bill re the ones I sent to him, I'm sure. WHAT did I get in-return but kicked in the teeth. And you expect me to view such treatment as pleasant and to give thanks, groveling for you masters' Greenies?
If so you must all be out of your minds as well as a pack of amateur sadists.
You are just ALL unworkable and cannot understand such a one as I. (How could you if truly you are not operatively human any longer?)
You claim to conduct your own self with grace and excoriate me for not doing-so? (No comment.)
I myself absolutely have and do with ones that reciprocate cleanly.
Five here I have found-so. Only five, and the rest of you . . . ?
As I've suggested . . . better pray.
J.
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re: Inegnuity v's Entropy 2 - Observations & Questions
Frankly, no. Especially when you just got through saying the following on this very page...primemignonite wrote:Ed, I've given up on dots and everyone here. Can't you tell?
primemignonite wrote:The only thing "creepy" around here is the cockroach that dares post nothing but jabs and needling of Greenie lessers.
Really? Tell that to Ken, as Fletcher mentioned. Ken may be long-winded, but at least his posts don't contain bile. JC handled him in his own way and then such a one as you took it upon himself to become an "attack dog", even to go as far as attacking JC for apparently closing his blog? Deprived you of a place to play did he?primemignonite wrote:You claim to conduct your own self with grace and excoriate me for not doing-so? (No comment.)
I myself absolutely have and do with ones that reciprocate cleanly.
Speaking of needling, you bring up this after we had settled it? To refresh your memory, I was the one who talking about Gary, you posted, then I posted links to more information about Gary, which I was eventually going to do anyway.primemignonite wrote:My first experience here was a bucket of cold water thrown in my face by yourself. You knew and tipped my intro. I am sure you knew of the pain it would serve to cause and it did. It was a very bad start ending the same way.
So, I (and others) are less than human, evil parts of a new world order conspiracies against you, whilst you are a precious flower who's posts everyone looks forward to? Please think about that one, will you?...
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Sometimes I think to myself that it must be popular on this forum to skip the courtship and marriage and just get down to turning into old bickering couples of grown men who have absolutely nothing better to do with their time, let alone something productive. The associated parties who can identify with that personally should get a room or ignore each other...it's that simple. This behavior only manifests among the same group of members, no matter what thread. I can only imagine, just looking at people who don't have to live together, how the same group of members gets along with their respective families, if at all, let alone with their friends. Leopards will always have spots, tigers will always have stripes, mean people will always be mean, unreasonable people can never be reasoned with, and the intellectually challenged yet deluded ones who don't know it will never thirst for real knowledge since their cup is already full. If anyone thinks that they know someone who fits the aforementioned profiling statement, do not talk to them. Ignore them. It's that simple. Nuff said.
re: Inegnuity v's Entropy 2 - Observations & Questions
I guess you blew it then? :-)Silvertiger wrote:Sometimes I think to myself
What some don't seem to realize is that Scott, the forum owner, has set up an unregulated forum. That means we must fend for ourself and settle our own disagreements. How do we do that? With our words. If you can tell others to ignore each other, you can probably ignore them as well. Otherwise you can try to take it up with Scott. It's that simple. Nuff said.
re: Inegnuity v's Entropy 2 - Observations & Questions
A ninny might think I would ever sign my name to something I didn't do.
I was tempted to allow the 72 hour deadline to lapse just to see what the 'next step' might be :D
I was tempted to allow the 72 hour deadline to lapse just to see what the 'next step' might be :D
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re: Inegnuity v's Entropy 2 - Observations & Questions
Ed, it is clear to me that you do not, will-to-not or cannot think or, do something that is but a semblance of it.
Also clear is the fact they you, as well as others, do not read what I write but perhaps truly might think-so.
I just hate to waste good time with you after realizing this for, on the account of the above, it seems that it could go-on forever. These tit-for-tat deals really do head their participants toward Nowhere Land.
Your entire last page was just filled with the non-sequiturous, things which in your mind have co-relevance (connections), but which really do not.
Don't or can you not realize this or are YOU on "meds" or hitting whatever it is that you consume? (I would fear for my liberty if I were to have such as yourself as my attorney at trial. You people are supposed to be good at lawyering but in your case this little Tribal specialness seems to have run-to-ground.)
In yourself, just WHAT am I and have I been dealing with? (My inclination is to believe that you do not know truly. I hope it is not the actual case, for that would put you outside of your mind functionally.)
There is something very wrong here with this entire site population (perhaps a minor case of mass psychosis?) with those too few glowing exceptions, of course.
With your partner Stewart, for an instance, we two have enjoyed exemplary correspondence (what there has been of it) both in public and private. In these he and I have behaved as gentlemen co-relationally, uniformly, or so I believe such to have been. I wish that I could say this same regarding ourselves. Truly I do.)
OK, since you insist by persistence . . .
You chose to quote me thus "Ed, I've given up on dots and everyone here. Can't you tell?" - James
You rejoindered with "Frankly, no. Especially when you just got through saying the following on this very page... " - Ed
And used this other quote of mine as supposed evidence in-support "The only thing "creepy" around here is the cockroach that dares post nothing but jabs and needling of Greenie lessers." - James
Now, instead of tussling with you, which I now believe to be useless as enterprise, I ask onlookers to point-out to all, if they might, just what the connection might be, such that you have purported to draw between my two excerpted quotes.
I'll leave it at that, for now . . .
-J.
Also clear is the fact they you, as well as others, do not read what I write but perhaps truly might think-so.
I just hate to waste good time with you after realizing this for, on the account of the above, it seems that it could go-on forever. These tit-for-tat deals really do head their participants toward Nowhere Land.
Your entire last page was just filled with the non-sequiturous, things which in your mind have co-relevance (connections), but which really do not.
Don't or can you not realize this or are YOU on "meds" or hitting whatever it is that you consume? (I would fear for my liberty if I were to have such as yourself as my attorney at trial. You people are supposed to be good at lawyering but in your case this little Tribal specialness seems to have run-to-ground.)
In yourself, just WHAT am I and have I been dealing with? (My inclination is to believe that you do not know truly. I hope it is not the actual case, for that would put you outside of your mind functionally.)
There is something very wrong here with this entire site population (perhaps a minor case of mass psychosis?) with those too few glowing exceptions, of course.
With your partner Stewart, for an instance, we two have enjoyed exemplary correspondence (what there has been of it) both in public and private. In these he and I have behaved as gentlemen co-relationally, uniformly, or so I believe such to have been. I wish that I could say this same regarding ourselves. Truly I do.)
OK, since you insist by persistence . . .
You chose to quote me thus "Ed, I've given up on dots and everyone here. Can't you tell?" - James
You rejoindered with "Frankly, no. Especially when you just got through saying the following on this very page... " - Ed
And used this other quote of mine as supposed evidence in-support "The only thing "creepy" around here is the cockroach that dares post nothing but jabs and needling of Greenie lessers." - James
Now, instead of tussling with you, which I now believe to be useless as enterprise, I ask onlookers to point-out to all, if they might, just what the connection might be, such that you have purported to draw between my two excerpted quotes.
I'll leave it at that, for now . . .
-J.
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re: Inegnuity v's Entropy 2 - Observations & Questions
Hi Silvertiger,
Just out of interest, how would you describe your own profile?
TLW
Just out of interest, how would you describe your own profile?
TLW
I have been wrong before!
I have been right before!
Hindsight will tell us!
I have been right before!
Hindsight will tell us!
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Re: re: Inegnuity v's Entropy 2 - Observations & Questio
You are losing your edge. Getting old, huh?ovyyus wrote:A ninny might think I would ever sign my name to something I didn't do.
I was tempted to allow the 72 hour deadline to lapse just to see what the 'next step' might be :D
Even though that, you did not answer.
Address the question square-on and skip the girly stuff.
Why just "tempted"? I made it crystal-clear as to what the next step would be.
This is yet-more indication the you and your backup partners do read what I write.
(And, as given that, HOW, I ask, could such a personage as yourself expect that he might be equipped to re-discover a prime mover???)
With YOU, I don't even bother to sign.
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