NEWS FLASH!! Fcdriver has a working wheel!!!!

[Grimer]

Ooops - wrong thread.

[Fcdriver]

Pushing down on a incline to increase distance, requires it to be a arc to match the harmonic motion of the force.

[WaltzCee]

Grimmer

Maybe you should post a link to this thread of Walter Clarkson Jnr's. It sounds interesting.

Hey, hey, Alan "Big Boy" What's Your Face from Gator'sville, USofA.

Have my people call your people and I'll see if I can't get you front row seats to Drivers Nobel award ceremony.

[WaltzCee]

a = Fnet / m

It does appear you have your black swans in a row, Driver.

Now, I am an eight dan. Would you like me to blow this forum up? Speak the word and I'll do it.

You might be scratchin' your noggin and wondering, what does this mean?

It means what I would have done for myself if I were the one who was the first to bring this idea to market.

In other words, are you ready to come to market?

[Fcdriver]

Come to market? You mean portable? Lol.

[Grimer]

In physics, jerk, also known as jolt, surge, or lurch, is the rate of change of acceleration; that is, the derivative of acceleration with respect to time, and as such the second derivative of velocity, or the third derivative of position. ...

The link for that red list above .....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerk_(physics)
..... is well worth reading - though it's probably more advanced than we need.

I particularly liked the compression wave patterns since they help one to understand how the 3rd derivative is pushed below the threshold of perception in a "rigid" wheel.

If the wheel is split into a series of independent sectors separated by very weak springs then the existence and nature of jerk under NG acceleration becomes apparent in the pattern of sector distribution. the same pattern as that presented by the superimposed cine frames of a 360° pendulum.

[Tarsier79]

It is a changing acceleration, but only due to Gravity being a vector, and the angle of the force compared to the radial mechanisms in each sector.

This particular change in acceleration does nothing to provide any useful advantage to rotation towards PM.

[Grimer]

Obviously.

3rd derivative energy needs to be transduced into 2nd derivative energy via some kind of mechanism just a heat energy (nth derivative energy) needs to be transduced into 2nd derv via some kind of mechanism.

Various mechanisms are possible. FcDriver seems to have found one of them.

[Tarsier79]

2nd derivative of what? Isnt that just acceleration? There is already an acceleration.

[Grimer]

2nd derivative of what? Isn't that just acceleration? There is already an acceleration.

Indeed there is. But it's not enough to carry a 360° pendulum over the top. So we need to take the 3rd derv and turn it into 2 derv to get it to go over the top and so on.

The trouble is you can't seem to realise, or rather you can't accept, that all higher derivatives are forms of energy and can be transduced by a suitable mechanism into lower derivative energies. Just as you can have a mechanical equivalent for heat (an enormously high derivative) so also you must be able to have a mechanical equivalent for the third derivative.

You're not to blame anymore than you are to blame for not accepting that materials are held together by external pressure, not internal tensions. I don't know anyone, apart from Newton, who shares that view.

Tension is a negation of pressure, not something in itself. One can compare tension with darkness which is a negation, an absence of light.

At least Walter has now got round to realising that the 3rd derivative could be the solution.

[oldNick]

Grimer,

Materials can be made by external pressure, the pressure causes atoms to morph and you can end up with interlocking crystals. Wood + pressure = coal + pressure = diamond, if you dig up a diamond it doesn't turn back into coal, wood or fall apart when there is less pressure.

Maybe Newton was right?

[Grimer]

Diamond will turn back to carbon given enough time for the external pressure of the Beta-atmosphere to worm its way back in. This process can be accelerated by raising the temperature of the diamonds. Despite James Bond diamonds are not forever.

Newton was right in thinking attraction is metaphysical. Unfortunately, unlike his friend, Nicolas Fatio de Duillier, he didn't follow through and recognise that gravity is a repulsive force.

[Tarsier79]

Indeed there is. But it's not enough to carry a 360° pendulum over the top. So we need to take the 3rd derv and turn it into 2 derv to get it to go over the top and so on. 

No you cant. The energy put into a mechanism is based on F x D. In the case of gravity GMH.

You dont magically transform something into a higher or lower derivative. Derivatives are a relationship, they describe how something is moving, and mathematically conform to COE mathematics.

[Grimer]

Indeed there is. But it's not enough to carry a 360° pendulum over the top. So we need to take the 3rd derv and turn it into 2 derv to get it to go over the top and so on. 

No you can't. The energy put into a mechanism is based on F x D. In the case of gravity GMH.

You don't magically transform something into a higher or lower derivative. Derivatives are a relationship, they describe how something is moving, and mathematically conform to COE mathematics.

That is the argument people make about Bessler's claim being impossible.

Do you believe in Bessler or not?

[ME]

* If A is true, then B is True;
* B is true;
* What does it say about C;