Have always had a fascination with 38, 40, 41, 42, and 60.

[jdelaney]

I saw the post by Mr. Collins on his blog concerning increasing the power of a working wheel.
Duplication of wheels side by side is one way, that is true.
My discovery would allow the weight mass to be increased also. My discovery has a pair of weights of equal mass, so increases of the masses only creates more force.

What causes the weights to shift is out of this world simple.

Unless I am mistaken, it is a duplication of side by side but it's not wheels.
If it is right, then Bessler's clues (some of them anyway) have a different meaning than what seems obvious.
Mt 83 might actually be right. the thing is, Bessler's wheel might be much more complicated.

[axel]

Found an improvement.

Have equal masses on each side of a center.

They move towards, then away from each other.

The interesting thing is that the distance relative to each other varies as gravity moves them.

So, I have a limit stop set when they are far and equally apart, then as they move together one, or the other will "get ahead" of the other, then at the end of that run is another stop set where they are again equidistant but close to the center.

[axel]

Yes. Yet another discovery that goes through the hoop.
JC keeps putting off telling about his work. I'm not going to tell anything until many others spill, to prevent a possible, "Hey, that's exactly what I'M DOING!"

[John Collins]

I have written a document detailing everything about my version of Bessler's wheel, including all the clues and my interpretation of them. It is currently being studied by two respected gentlemen. Discussions are taking place and as soon as I have their final opinions I will publish it, subject to their own advice about the next step to take. It's possible/likely that some alterations in the document may be required befor publication, but it will be published.

JC

[Grimer]

MT41 has ropes and pulleys to activate the scissor jacks :




The horizontal stator wheels to raise the weights (MT41,42) are symbolic.
Some mechanism to be determined. But MT40 shows us 2 levers and 2 weights in charge of moving the scissor jacks.

Looking at that picture of scissor jacks it suddenly struck me that they could be used to achieve the same effect as the rubber bands in the rubber band motor.

I've always been rather dismissive of scissor jacks and their fan club since they are so inefficient but maybe they have something. The energy lost on pulling the weights in on one side is equal to the energy gained in letting the weights out on the other. If one can devise a way of overcoming the loses it might work.

I'll have to give this some thought.

[AB Hammer]

Hi Grimmer

The cables on MT 41 are attached at each end of the weights and each end of the scissors. This causes the reset of the activation arms for the disk to activate each rotation. I was under the idea that was common knowledge. Sorry for the assumption for I could have disclosed that a long time ago.

[jms.lindgard]

Number 40 in particular. As drawn in MT, it will never work. I've pounded all of these many times trying to see what could be done to alter the parts preventing them from working. Everything tried, makes the situation worse.

I see something now with 40 though.
It will take awhile try the principle out for real.

I can tell you now though, the crossbar may cause the imbalance, but its weight is not what gravity causes to turn.

Axel,
With Mt 40, there is one thing missing. Otherwise it would work. But I do have my build to finish. Since people are interested in it, I thought I would mention it.

[jms.lindgard]

I hope ya'all don't mind my giving you the answer to Mt 40. I happen to like Bessler's work. In the diagram I made, the brown sections are 2 bars.
If B is a fixed pivot point, then A moves to and away from B as needed.
With C, if it is pushed up, then it's cross bar lifts to opposing scissor parts. Maximum lift with a single upward motion. And this means for the compound motion of the scissors, the only work being performed is moving the upright brown bar. Everything else just reacts to what that does.

[jms.lindgard]

edited; duplicate post.

[axel]

Ok. I see you all going off after the ones with the numbers I said were my favorites. They still are, but what I've discovered, mentioned in my last post, is that none or parts of them are the answer. Don't waste any more time. Indeed, everything in MT is NOT what makes it go.
The answer is more in that Greed thing he wrote. Everything in MT can be pulled or pushed and used to make it go, but there's nothing in there that comes even close to the puller.
My recent discovery is the puller, after weighing everything, over and over, all the relationships, the imbalances, the idea popped into my head. I had to refine how to accomplish the puller. It goes around, going up a down in balance within itself and allowing the pull to be tapped and bled off.
Eleven years I've had this project in my mind always and the reward is here.

[jms.lindgard]

Hi Grimmer

The cables on MT 41 are attached at each end of the weights and each end of the scissors. This causes the reset of the activation arms for the disk to activate each rotation. I was under the idea that was common knowledge. Sorry for the assumption for I could have disclosed that a long time ago.

Nothing personal AB Hammer but IMHO, your quote should read
"Our lack of education can be the limitation to our imagination, and our dreams" and not
"Our education can be the limitation to our imagination, and our dreams"

it's pretty simple really. Every equation in physics allows for work. In scientific terms, it is Ohm (The ohm (symbol: Ω) of which without resistance no work is performed.
Education merely enables a mind to choose it's own path.

edited to add; With out a dream, there is no vision.
Without understanding, there is no dream. Without education, there is no understanding. Vision is merely the path of the learned mind. And from the learned mind comes understanding.

[jms.lindgard]

You know Alan, you make it too easy. Nothing replaces learning and work. Kind of why someone named John Collins wrote a book(s) about someone named Johann Bessler. Both learning and work take time and effort.

[AB Hammer]

Hi Grimmer

The cables on MT 41 are attached at each end of the weights and each end of the scissors. This causes the reset of the activation arms for the disk to activate each rotation. I was under the idea that was common knowledge. Sorry for the assumption for I could have disclosed that a long time ago.

Nothing personal AB Hammer but IMHO, your quote should read
"Our lack of education can be the limitation to our imagination, and our dreams" and not
"Our education can be the limitation to our imagination, and our dreams"

it's pretty simple really. Every equation in physics allows for work. In scientific terms, it is Ohm (The ohm (symbol: Ω) of which without resistance no work is performed.
Education merely enables a mind to choose it's own path.

edited to add; With out a dream, there is no vision.
Without understanding, there is no dream. Without education, there is no understanding. Vision is merely the path of the learned mind. And from the learned mind comes understanding.

No Jim L

They are written just as they need to be. You can educate yourself to the point of only knowing what is in the books and loose your common since and that limits imagination and dream capability.

Other terms are, over educated or educated idiot which can mean you know the books but have no skill accept something new or to use it.

Now for my second statement

With out a dream, there is no vision.

This can be re-said as.
If you can't dream something new. You can't build something new.
Not to discount the skill trades that allow you to build someone else's dream as it is written or posted from a source. For those can be fantastic builders, and proud of their skill.

[AB Hammer]

axel

Learning what could be Bessler's prime mover is the final breakthrough which is shown but not shown in Bessler's writings and drawings. These MTs do have something to learn but there is more. But they are still some of my favorites as well as MT39 to add to these.


Alan

[jms.lindgard]

The only problem is, you don't know what is in the books. You're other terms are missing something, lacking an education.
To quote you: educated idiot which can mean you know the books but have no skill accept something new or to use it.
end quote.
What does that mean ? It makes no sense. I guess you miss the point of why there are books and school. It's so that people have a common denominator. Science requires this and when you married a woman, that was another common denominator. Common denominators abound in any given society. They are not for comparison but are reference points.
An example is if you were to sleep with another man, is that a comparative analysis or merely referencing behaviors observed in other people ?