NEWS FLASH!! Fcdriver has a working wheel!!!!

[Fcdriver]

How about just answering the simple questions you keep avoiding? For starters, how long did your wheel turn on its own before it came to a stop? Did it gradually come to a stop or did it accelerate on its own?

if it slowly came to a stop, it would not be a solution! You answer your own question, while asking it! Just what and how would you expect a direct answer?

[justsomeone]

Why the games?

So it ran for days and days?

[AB Hammer]

How long is not as important as if it accelerated, or shown to do work. The reason I say this is because a system that is 99.% + efficient would still run a long time and still have no gain, and would not be a perpetual motion machine.

[Fcdriver]

Why the games?

So it ran for days and days?

Again I have explained this! It ran! While adding weights for testing, I added to much for my weakest parts. If you want me to lie and say I ran it for days, before adding weights, I did not do this! I broke it, a ten lbs weight can give a lot more force than a two and one half lbs weight. If you have ever used a shovel, it would be easy to understand! There is a big difference shoveling a 23 lbs rock, and a 2.3 lbs partial load! Especially while holding the shovel at the very end of the handle!

It is not games, it is a legal difference between publishing and seeking a patent! To claim this as easy, is not the truth!

[justsomeone]

It ran for....10 minutes? 20 minutes? 30 minutes? Would it self start in any position? Non of these questions would effect your patent. If you have invented something worthy of a patent, please make sure you protect it. I know waiting is tough. Good luck.

[Tarsier79]

It doesn't matter. Nothing FC has alluded to has any chance of running. Ramps have leverage, so do levers. A cam is a lever. The wheel is a lever. The pivot of a lever on a wheel is a lever. Leverage alone will never provide a runner.

[ME]

Don't blame the lever before a (working) PMM is shown.
Besides, FC uses harmonic motion*.

*) harmonic motion: the rate of lift as it goes around a wheel. (aka: a lever function)

[jim_mich]

IMO, if Fcdriver is attempting to harness gravity as the motive force for his wheel, then it will never work.

[Fcdriver]

Thank you that is what my patent attorney wants to hear! I just need a few more! Please keep claiming that it is impossible!

[WaltzCee]

Thank you that is what my patent attorney wants to hear! I just need a few more! Please keep claiming that it is impossible!

Frank, can I call you Frank? Hum? I'll give you some advice. You don't need the claims of a forum littered with crackpots and crackpot ideas. Go to MIT. Go to CalTech.

Heck, go to Cambridge and discuss the matter with Newton's heir.

Please don't be offended and here's my point. The entire scientific community of the world says it is impossible.

You don't need the opinion of this community of crackpots. :)

I'm not going to send you a bill for that advice yet I wouldn't mind if you would return the favor. What we all want to know is when can we expect you to deliver?

What's the ETA?

[Phaedrus]

The problem is, as shown in this thread on BW.com that I happened to stumble upon (but can't remember where it was) where someone had brought up all these old reports of people having come up with PMMs back in the beginning of the 20th century. And once they had done that, they immediately wanted to patent them, just like FC is doing. And so what happened to them?? What is your theory of what happens to these PMMs once they are patented? They don't change the world the way their creators thought they would. They just sort of disappear. What are chances this will happen again with FCs wheel (virtually certain in my opinion)? Do they all get bought off? Does someone from the fossil fuel industry come and buy up the patent? Is that what happens? Or something like that? Or as this guy that there is a link to right from the title page of www.besslerwheel.com says (Larry McCart), does the government pronounce the patent a "security threat", because it would just devastate our whole economy if everyone started using this way to power their homes, etc (http://www.qsc.cc/secrecy2.htm), and they suppress it because of that. Because our economy is so intimately intertwined with the fossil fuel industry. Is that what happens? Anyway, maybe at least, if FC is willing to let us know, we will be able to see what happens in real time. How these inventions get suppressed, and leave the world gasping for its last breath in an atmosphere filled with used fossil fuel. It would be very interesting to see how that works.

[John doe]

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I have to say this has been an excellent informative media as well as a few other web sites related to bessler and his wheels....

"...other web sites related to bessler and his wheels"???

New one on me.
Links please.

I would have to go through my journal to compile any sort of list.
I also would say like bessler (although I'm not an overly religious fellow) I drew my greatest inspiration from the good old bible itself. Not necessarily claiming any sort of divine inspiration just old fashioned inspiration. Although I have only recently discovered this site I have been thinking on this subject for well over a year and only recently decided to invest my time and put my money where my mouth is as they say.

[Fcdriver]

Something simple to try, take a pen hold a ball against a door jamb, hold the pen perpendicular to the jamb. It's easy to hold the ball. If you hold the pen parallel to the jamb it takes a lot more force. Lifting a weight indirectly, but using the exact same weight pushing down directly. Pushing with a clear understand of of the desired direction. A lever pushing against a bearing is a flat surface pushing against a round surface, which the angle of attack is constantly changing. This means to push down only is wrong, you have to change the angle of attack, to push around.

[rlortie]

"...other web sites related to bessler and his wheels"???

New one on me.
Links please.

http://www.besslerwheel.com/links.html
http://www.besslerrad.de/
http://www.mamut.com/cfconverter
http://www.infinite-energy.com/
http://www.cybrtown.com/~mike/frames
http://www.evert.de/eft00e.htm
http://www.gravitywheel.com/
http://orffyre.proboards.com/thread/10
http://orffyre.tripod.com/contact.html
http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/people/bessler.htm
http://www.spartechsoftware.com/dimensi ... fyreus.htm
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable ... i-see.html
http://www.freeenergynews.com/Directory/BesslersWheel/
http://cosmoquest.org/forum/archive/ind ... 67704.html

[jim_mich]

Ralph, your links are old and out-of-date. I clicked on about five of them and they had nothing to do with Bessler or his wheel.