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ordered 22 more springs
there are four springs assigned to each weight/lever
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I get it now!
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That's good. Don't forget the rollers and cam followers.
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It's about 4:08 EST USA and I couldn't quit!!!

Have the inner wheel held out from the faceplate and nothing hits now...wish the diameter was larger, hope there is enough room for all the swinging to amount to force.


Just have to wait for the springs, U-bolts, weld some nuts on them and then we shall see what we shall see.

Are you getting the same results Wheeler???????????????????????????
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A picture of my PMM. Of course it's covered, but you can see it has some thickness. 7.25 in. when enclosed.


Wheeler:
I received your various private messages. Would you please not send me any more? What I reveal will go to everybody. Thanks.
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The things poking out under the sheet are vise grips temporarily holding things in place...
The things poking out under the sheet are vise grips temporarily holding things in place...
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Robert

Yes

I looked back over this thread, and noticed how we enjoyed several conversations along the way.

I sent you one private message, because I thought you might enjoy knowing that I believe we are working on the same idea.

If you did get other private e-mails as you stated hear, they were not from me.
I received your various private messages
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Wheeler:

I've been printing out all received private messages before deleting them.

I wonder, are you operating from the inside?




Is your wheel 7.25" wide too?
Could we see a picture of YOUR serious attempt(s)?
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Typical JB Wheeler private message:

Robert
Without sounding like I know something, I am wondering sincerely if we may have the same pattern?
I do not want to add any confusion to your quest, but I have had the feeling for awhile.
Please excuse me, if this is incorrect, but I felt I should at leat let you know
in case we were.
I don't know what we could do with this information, but it may be helpful for both of us to know.

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Wheel,
You seem into feelings and relationships, so I wonder, what is your bra size?
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Is this all you could come up with?
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To whom withheld,

Seems like I have heard this song before.

"I think were on the same track, lets compare notes, Should we get together and build this"

I am still waiting to find out "Build What??""

And another bridge has been burned, who will be the next lucky person to hear that you think yours is like theirs. Oops! there goes another red check on the old Rep button.

Well at least I am no longer spending time downloading vidios of swimming penguins and not given a reason as to why!

The season on "bait and switch" has come to a close, your licence has expired. A renewal will cost you physical description info on why you claim to know the secret. Is it in penguins, birds or the Bible as you claim.

By the way did you ever meet Darrell, I believe the two of you have nothing in common, at least he presented a physical wheel to attempt to back his claims, and when we were privately posting he got down to the bottom line of the subject. You on the other hand you have said a lot about nothing. Have you considered entering a political position, you have the knack for it.

Oh! by the way I found that if I regrind me cam followers to an elongated shape they will go bumpity-bump in the night. Robert, I may be on to something here.

Sayonara

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i have noticed every one that belives they have a viable idea gets ragged on quite a bit.......Jim_ Mitch has an idea but gets a free ride ......whats the deal on that......oh ......i remember Jim_Mitch said it wasn't enybodys bussness...........................never mind
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Winkle,

It has become apparent that to say I have a viable idea is bait for gaining input to your concept.

Not all of us get ragged on. I have five viable ideas of my own and three that I am building for other confidential members. Obviously I am not going to talk about theirs.

The problem is when some one claims to have it but instead of building still stick their nose into every thread posted here. By that I do not mean to simply stay informed but to fish for data they claim to already have.

I claim to have viable ideas and ask those that believe they do, but do not have the resources to let me see it. If I think it is viable I will build it for them on a confidential contingency basis.

I do not advertise this offer, forum members that trust and respect me come forward at their own apprehension. I do not need any help or input as I am now buried in construction of various ideas.

When a member contacts me and says I got the answer and need help, then strings me along with insignificant time wasting bull, while trying to pump my brain is not nice. I call it down right disrespectful and they deserve to be ragged. Those that present a sketch or plans with text get immidiete response and my respect.

My health dictates when I can be in the shop, and when all I can do is participate here on the forum in hope of being productive to some ones benefit.

I feel that I do not get ragged on because I ask for nothing, if I have questions then my concept is not as viable as I state. Like I, Jim gets a free ride because he does not attempt to convince others to work on their ideas together, which always ends up being your idea.

When a member says Hey! I got a working wheel or I know how to make one, or the phrase "I think your idea is the same as mine" the time is come to say "put up or shut up"

I feel that more should consider the forum as a place to discuss ideas posted by members asking for assistance and not a place to access information under false pretense. Eventually they burn their last bridge and are gone. There is a big difference in saying "I got it, but lets compare notes, than just asking for input.

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I've posted useful information and links.
I've been building my share of failures in an attempt to solve the puzzle.
I have shown pictures of several attempts.
I have "busted" 3 posters, Blazer2000X (false claim/copyright), underdog(obviously a white guy--but the way he /she writes one can almost see the thick glasses and buck teeth of a polynesian pinhead), and Wheeler(male impersonator?and would be chum)

Yet my reputation is frozen at "Acknowledged" while Wheeler's is "Appreciated".

What do I have to do? I certainly can't be any more entertaining....
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First of all I want to say Wow this is good!

I walk in from working, hot tired, and click on to this, and I begin to realize that it is some of the best entertainment I've seen on the WWW web.

I realize that you must be frustrated or something.

What the hell is going on with you two.

I am going to go back and look at the lasts posts again.
I can hardly believe you two.

Are you having an idenity crisis or something.

I never told you I had a working model.

I did tell you that I have discovered how to make it.

I think I will let you go on this, and get back to work.

Thanks Winkle

All of a sudden bang Ralph is mad!

I only asked him if he would help me build it.

I have asked others on the forum, if they would help, and no one got mad, they just said no.
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OK I'm starting to put it together now.

It is a lot of stuff, but I think I sense you think I am trying to get your ideas.

Is that what you are saying?

Ralph

To tell you the truth if I wanted your ideas, all I have to do is read your posts.
You stated your theory was hidden within the posts you made.

If I wanted your ideas or anyones, I would of asked for them.

I don't know what you are doing but I am ready to forgive you for thinking you have to fight for this.

We are all here for a reason, and it is frustrating sometimes to try to understand someone over electronic symbols of words on computers.

You can take back your anger and start fresh now with direct questions to me if you wish.
If you want me to give you my details you must be willing to sign papers under oath.
If you want to help me build it, You can, but your last e-mail said you would help find funding after it is built.

This was why I said thank you and I have not heard from you till your frustration let go in this forum.
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