The missing factor

[getterdone]

Here s part of the eye witness testimony by Johann Christian Wolf

I conclude, not only from this but also from other circumstantial evidence, that the weights are attached to some moveable or elastic arms on the periphery of the wheel. During rotation, one can clearly hear the weights hitting against the wooden boards. I was able to observe these boards through a slit. They are slightly warped. When he put the wheel onto another support and reinstalled the weights in their previous positions, he pushed down on an iron spring that gave a loud noise as it expanded upwards."


I use tot think that the weight s would roll on the elongated/warped boards, now I believe that the weights may have been used to bend the board

The jack fires and the bow twangs, any thoughts on this?

[John doe]

Sounds like a good theory to me.

[John doe]

Nm

[WaltzCee]

Am I making sense or have I jumped the shark on this one??

:P

The link stated:

The electron g-factor is due to the stretching of space-time as the electron spins at the speed of light.

I didn't know that.

I don't think your reasoning actually qualifies as shark jumping. When you get to Batshitcrazyistan, you'll be able to see Sharkjumpingburg from there.

You're not there yet.

Well, since you deleted your post, this will just be between you and me John.

[John doe]

Thanks I was a bit worried.
Things get strange when you start reevaluating fundamentals of the universe....

[ME]

Things get strange when you start reevaluating fundamentals of the universe....

Funny when connecting the end-point with the starting-point:

The one factor that surprises me that is not available......is the time.

[John doe]

True.
If you assume the acceleration rate is linear and it took 1 revolution to get to top speed then you should be able to calculate the time. Of course that's based on a linear acceleration which I think would be a reasonable assumption.

[Art]

Hi FcDriver ,

Yes this is a great application of the principle you have been talking about which IMO is the maximising of the mechanical advantge of the force application in a circular lever.

Whether it allows the attainment of any "over-unity " in the system though is still the unanswered question ! I'm really hanging out for some test results here.

How is that painting coming along ? : )

[ovyyus]

"I was able to observe these boards through a slit. They are slightly warped."

'Slightly warped boards' is a translation error that was corrected long ago. There were no 'warped boards' in Wolff's description, he described small beams fixed (perpendicular) to the rim, as per Stewart's translation below:

"... In fact in the periphery [of the wheel] here and there small 'normal' beams were attached, which on rotation of the wheel ~it was evident~ were quite clearly perceived to be hit by weights. I have noticed those small beams [while] looking through a crack, although from a distance. ..."

[WaltzCee]

How is that painting coming along ? : )

You know Frank, we're all wondering this. I've asked you this on the forum and PM. Now you can man up and give an answer or you can persist in how things seem to be.

No disrespect intended. Curious though, why won't you say.

I know if I had an answer I'd be talking big time crap. :) Believe me.

The way you're handling this makes us all wonder. I know a certain one that has put in his vote of no confidence.

We're looking for an ETA of this deliverable here, Frank.

Can you deliver, Frank? Or should be looking at the triangles, or maybe someone waiting for the sun to warm their workshop, or perhaps someone to overcome the affliction of their health, or what?

What Frank?

[Fcdriver]

The sound was nothing more than a ratchet device, remember these people had never seen a bicycle, they didn't even question a square cog drive, that powered the water wheel! Yet they said it ran smoothly, no jerk from the stompers, no jerk from driving the pump?

[WaltzCee]

Once upon a time,
In a galaxy far, far away,
Everyone believed in nothing,
Happily ever after.

or

once upon a time
somewhere far away
everyone believed nothing
and nothing happened.

[getterdone]

"I was able to observe these boards through a slit. They are slightly warped."

'Slightly warped boards' is a translation error that was corrected long ago. There were no 'warped boards' in Wolff's description, he described small beams fixed (perpendicular) to the rim, as per Stewart's translation below:

"... In fact in the periphery [of the wheel] here and there small 'normal' beams were attached, which on rotation of the wheel ~it was evident~ were quite clearly perceived to be hit by weights. I have noticed those small beams [while] looking through a crack, although from a distance. ..."

Thanks Bill, the Wolf quote I used was from this site, in the opening page.

From that clue , I designed a wheel were the weight on one lever bends a board , the bent board acts ike a see- saw tilting the wheel forward , then the weighted lever snaps forwards when it gets close to the 3 o'clock position, which turns the wheel past the 6 o 'clock position I havent figured out the reset yet

Just another half baked idea lol

[ME]

True.
If you assume the acceleration rate is linear and it took 1 revolution to get to top speed then you should be able to calculate the time. Of course that's based on a linear acceleration which I think would be a reasonable assumption.

No true... (pun was not received I guess)

You can't assume constant acceleration because it reached some maximum velocity;
It took more than 1 rotation to get to top speed (thus a drop in acceleration)

But perhaps one could calculate that stuff even when acceleration suddenly drops to zero when maximum velocity is reached.

V[max]=300°/s, Rotation=360° --> t=2.4 seconds, a=125 °/s2

Edit...oops: m/s2 --> °/s2

[agor95]

Hi

I am interested in the 'some maximum velocity'.

It would be good to have an agreed upper rotation limit.