His Secret Is In The Levers

[WaltzCee]

Interesting viewpoint... I thought you were supposed to be your client's supporter, not your client's pimp or merchant.

This is so interesting. Let us break it down. A pimp takes something and turns a dime; puts some in his pocket and gives the whore some (for make-up, perfume or what ever) then does it again. In other words for a pimp, it's about having nothing on the table and collecting 20 pieces of silver.

For me that's not the case. I have a dog in the race. I have something on the table. I have my very life on the table. If I loose, feed me to the lions. Throw me into a firey furnace with Shadrach, Meshach and a BadNegro. I don't give a rats ass.

I have skin in the game, but more than that. My very existence is in the balance. Way more than skin if you ask me.

I'm betting on the one that knows where the fulcrum is and puts it where he damn well pleases.

You created a challenge by advertising your client's supremacy and awaiting any failure from some other side - it remains unchallenged (this iteration) no matter how the other side reacts, therefore the bet you placed can't be lost.
Hence it's a marketing trick (your bet priced supremacy, not praised) which can be repeated cheaply (pimped) without additional costs (one life).

All this is based on your privileged personal experience and can't be proven by someone else (personal) and can't be proven by you (but experienced).
How do we really know you bested your better?
Possibly you were either just better in some of those cases, perhaps you overestimated the other, underestimate yourself, was just lucky, unknowingly helped by your client, and/or/thus/besides/while/also/maybe/hence/ergo the other had a bad moment.
Perhaps you never tried to test your client yourself for some unknown reason, so it might even be possible you'd surpass your client when you'd try; perhaps you already tried and something funny or mysterious happened... I don't know (perhaps some day, perhaps better when it remains that way).

I don't think you will be torn, sliced, diced, marinated, pickled, barbecued, grilled, fried, cooked, or otherwise be processed as it were a form of revenge, wrath, judgement or other weird sense of hind-sight-correction; --- at least that should not happen according to the Mighty Fulcrum I know, it's simply not how fulcrum-thingies behave. Your existence should be safe enough.

Still makes me wonder though: what would the situation be when you match (or transcend) your own client? :-)

My dearest Marchello, you've said a mouthful. I respectfully request you give me a long moment to digest it all.

I can assure you I'm up to the task, yet not just right now. What I've noticed about anything you've got to say is it takes me quite a while to understand.

Give me a moment, kind sir, and I'll get back to you. I've bookmarked this.

[james.lindgard]

AB Hammer weights can be connected by springs and gears and strings and they can flop around and fall again, and there is no "line" that determines because they are in a position below that line they would be universally unable to turn a wheel. You just trial and error your way into a scientific law on a subject like perpetual motion where there has been no recorded success yet. You are just most likely wrong about the 9 and 3. Give me a good reason why you keep believing it's like this.

Well said. The link is too something most will probably remember. And Preoccupied, AB Hammer isn't worth posting with. All he wants is attention. If you ask him to discuss his work, he won't. He simply has no understanding of math or engineering. And his reason for not discussing his work is he can't trust you but will ask you to show what you know. This suggests that he is a fraud and if you look in the fraud section, he posted that I am the world's ultimate fraud. Not sure how he can make that claim when I show my work and everybody is expected to accept what he says.
If you want, I could see if I can upload the spreadsheet of ME'sthat I modified for this. It's kind of basic but if you have open office then you could open it and see some of what me and ME have been talking about.


@ME, I am working on the images for 180° of rotation in 15° increments. I am hoping you will be able to animate them. I'd appreciate it if you could. And they'll show the correct movement and as you know but some in here might miss, when 180° is looped it allows for 360° of rotation which would show how this method could work perpetually.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEkK87m-2B8

edited to add; with this simulation, once the movement of the weights and levers are shown, then I will start adding the mechanics which would include pulleys and any levers or latches that are needed to time the movement of the wheel weights as well as the weights for over balance.
And by doing things in this way, it will show what such a wheel would require for it to be built. And since my medical situation is going to be resolved, then a build is something I will be moving towards by the work being done in this thread.

[james.lindgard]

@All,
This is kind of just for fun and when considering perpetual motion rotating around a vertical access, this would be something that can be calculated before ever building anything. And with the spreadsheet that I've been working on as well as this simulation that ME has helped out on, this is how angular momentum can be calculated; L =mvr where L is angular momentum. And how can mvr be considered ?
With the design I am discussing, the over balance is on the descending side and the under balance is on the ascending side. And if we consider [-x] + x+ob = 2x + ob. Then if we divide 2x + ob / ob, we have Y which is a percentage of mass that is over balanced. Then if we multiply 9.8 m/s by Y, that would be L = mvr. And v is dt (distance * time, 9.8m * how many seconds).
And by not showing something that is layered to obscure symmetrical behavior (perpetuity s not possible with symmetrical designs), a simple 4 weighted design can be calculated to show potential.
And with me, this is why I like math. And if someone built the design that I've posted, they wouldn't know if they did something wrong or not. This is where if a person wants to keep everything simple they could try checkers.

edited to modify mathematical expression

[james.lindgard]

The link is to a set of images that allow for 180° of rotation. Since the weights will be shifting the cycle will start over again.
And as for myself, I would say this is a basic Bessler perpetual motion wheel. If this specific design can work, then an 8 weight configuration could be more efficient.
And with this, if anyone wants to, they can download all of the images and go through them one at a time. This would allow them to see when the weights are shifting and I think I have all of the movements happening when they should be.


Jim

https://goo.gl/photos/J7nSyGRJohiM3a9Z8

edited to add; the order that they are in in the album is wrong. They are numbered 0 - 165 (15° increments) so if google changed them, they might need to be put back in order again.

[james.lindgard]

Just in case google makes it too difficult, I'll put about 3 or 4 images per post. This way they'll stay in their proper order.

[james.lindgard]

:-)

[james.lindgard]

:-)

I think when everyone sees the overbalanced weight creating an obvious over balance they might wonder if Bessler really did do it.


Jim

[AB Hammer]

AB Hammer weights can be connected by springs and gears and strings and they can flop around and fall again, and there is no "line" that determines because they are in a position below that line they would be universally unable to turn a wheel. You just trial and error your way into a scientific law on a subject like perpetual motion where there has been no recorded success yet. You are just most likely wrong about the 9 and 3. Give me a good reason why you keep believing it's like this.

Well said. The link is too something most will probably remember. And Preoccupied, AB Hammer isn't worth posting with. All he wants is attention. If you ask him to discuss his work, he won't. He simply has no understanding of math or engineering. And his reason for not discussing his work is he can't trust you but will ask you to show what you know. This suggests that he is a fraud and if you look in the fraud section, he posted that I am the world's ultimate fraud. Not sure how he can make that claim when I show my work and everybody is expected to accept what he says.
If you want, I could see if I can upload the spreadsheet of ME'sthat I modified for this. It's kind of basic but if you have open office then you could open it and see some of what me and ME have been talking about.


@ME, I am working on the images for 180° of rotation in 15° increments. I am hoping you will be able to animate them. I'd appreciate it if you could. And they'll show the correct movement and as you know but some in here might miss, when 180° is looped it allows for 360° of rotation which would show how this method could work perpetually.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEkK87m-2B8

edited to add; with this simulation, once the movement of the weights and levers are shown, then I will start adding the mechanics which would include pulleys and any levers or latches that are needed to time the movement of the wheel weights as well as the weights for over balance.
And by doing things in this way, it will show what such a wheel would require for it to be built. And since my medical situation is going to be resolved, then a build is something I will be moving towards by the work being done in this thread.

The Answers to lindgaard's BS

1. AB Hammer isn't worth posting with. All he wants is attention. If you ask him to discuss his work, he won't.


1. answer
James Lindgaard is who wants the attention. That is why every time he got banned he would use a new sign in (a fraudulent move to get back in the forum)
I have discussed a lot of my work and have a private forum here where a large amount of people here are able to see except unknowns and james lindgaard which he hates.

2. He simply has no understanding of math or engineering.


2. answer
I am a 30 year master smith who specialize historic reproduction of armor, tools, siege engines, and ancient technologies. More than Lindgaard ever achieved.

3. And his reason for not discussing his work is he can't trust you but will ask you to show what you know..


3. answer
I show on private forum to keep people like lindgaard and unknowns out of what I am doing.

4. This suggests that he is a fraud and if you look in the fraud section, he posted that I am the world's ultimate fraud. Not sure how he can make that claim

4. answer

The ultimate fraud string is for all the mass number of sign ins Lindgaard was doing after he was banned. Thus fraudulent behavior.

In this video is 2 wheels that is for all intensive purposes almost the same approach and they didn't work. They start at 1;20 on the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ny7O7bAn2uU

PS if Lindgaard didn't talk/lie/slander about me? I would not post to defend or set the story straight, on his strings. I prefer never talking to him.

[preoccupied]

How can six weights lift three weights? 6 weights fall together to wind a spring and the spring turns three weights up around the wheel. I found Bessler's Wheel! I did it! You suck! I am the best! AAhhh aAHhhhhhhh... No need to search any longer.

[ME]

My dearest Marchello, you've said a mouthful.
...
What I've noticed about anything you've got to say is it takes me quite a while to understand.

-- Don't worry about it, sometimes I even seem to confuse myself.

the order that they are in in the album is wrong

Only two of them..
I tried to include the paths of the weights, perhaps that blue-left-side looks a bit weird. When those "blue" weights perform that wing-manoeuvre they'll be effectively almost weightless in relation to the wheel, and while they drop they shouldn't be able to perform an additional lift... Of course, as always, as far as I know and understand.

Anyway, here's an animation.

[james.lindgard]

ME,
That's awesome ! It also looks like the weight on the lever might help to increase the amount of over balance. If so, that would be important to know.
I did make a quick spreadsheet this morning. What everyone needs to be mindful of is that the imbalance created by a lever not being at 90° to the axle (2nd image) will decrease Net Force by about 1/2.
This concept will need some "tweaking" or minor adjustments but I think is a good start.
With the 2nd image, all that matters is the distance to the left or right from the center line that gravity creates. With the offset leveraging, if that allows for perpetuity then it is something that we know little about.

Jim

edited to add content.

[james.lindgard]

How can six weights lift three weights? 6 weights fall together to wind a spring and the spring turns three weights up around the wheel. I found Bessler's Wheel! I did it! You suck! I am the best! AAhhh aAHhhhhhhh... No need to search any longer.

Great job preoccupied !!!

[james.lindgard]

AB Hammer,
Why don't you get a life ? All you seem to be able to say is that your are justified in attacking me because a woman has a right to protect her honor.
Not really my problem if you were a cook in the Coast Guard and then in the Air National Guard they transferred you from the motor pool to the military police. The only reason for such a transfer is because you lack any mechanical ability.
And yet while I have schooling, you say education doesn't matter . I think it does. If not then there wouldn't be schools and yet there are a wide variety of schools.
And AB Hammer, your personal vendetta against me has gotten old.

Jim

edited to add; @All, I should be getting my medical situation resolved. I was told that First Lady Michelle Obama asked the V.A. to make it happen.
This should allow me to receive social security disability insurance until doctors clear me to return to work. And that is what will help to finance my possibly earning a living doing wood working.
If so, that might take a little time. Still, it would make my life easier and being successful with Bessler, that would be one heck of a jump start. And in case anyone is wondering, I do think the design posted will work. Check the spread sheet and divide torque by 2, there is extra force in this design.
I may stay off line for a while and work on detailing this concept some more. This way the nay sayers can find something else to do. After all, working out the mechanics to control the movement of the 2 weight wheels will take some time.

[AB Hammer]

AB Hammer,
Why don't you get a life ? All you seem to be able to say is that your are justified in attacking me because a woman has a right to protect her honor.
Not really my problem if you were a cook in the Coast Guard and then in the Air National Guard they transferred you from the motor pool to the military police. The only reason for such a transfer is because you lack any mechanical ability.
And yet while I have schooling, you say education doesn't matter . I think it does. If not then there wouldn't be schools and yet there are a wide variety of schools.
And AB Hammer, your personal vendetta against me has gotten old.

Jim

Who is attacking who? Only james lindgaard is attacking like the cybor bully / troll he is.
A perfect example of story twisting to mean something different than what it is and then blame myself for what only Lindgaard is doing. attacking, vendetta, and lies all belong to Lindgaard.

[AB Hammer]

ME

Nice animation for what is wanted to be seen. Yet only the build will show the true actions of the device. Despite attacks to myself from Lindgaard I will compliment on the diagrams he is producing even though I don't believe it will do as he thinks.

Again a very good job on the animation



Alan