His Secret Is In The Levers

[james.lindgard]

You're funny AB Hammer. The last I heard, Walt has a client who doesn't like Norwegians.
I know we're enemies but that's for the same reason Bessler and Wagner were enemies.
Now why don't you show that Mt. 67 can't work because the Keel Effect shows it's in balance?
Then everyone will know I am a fraud.


And AB Hammer, my health is none of your concern, afteryall Ii am a fraud so I'm probably lying about it.
Even you have posted in the past that I didn't have any medical problems because I'm not you.
You know, I was supposed to feel sorry for ypu. After all, you are an American man married to an American woman and all you can say is that I am a fraud while you are helpless.

Well it is simple Lindgaard If you don't want anybody to wish you good health? Don't post your personal health problems. I don't mind a little help from well wishing.

As for MT67 it is an attempt to try to get something out of a trade. At best it can be balanced only at best, but will not operate. And if you try to add weights by lever or drop to get it to operate it will become a lot worst and just sit there with no chance of turning without outside help.

AB Hammer,
It is only you. First Lady Michelle Obama wants me to be healthy. And she hasn't repeatedly called me a fraud either.
And I think this post f yours shows that you're ignorant. That's the only way I can put it. You see what you over looked is that MT 67 works according to the "Keel Effect".
And as you mentioned, the "Keel Effect" shows what I am building will not work. And for all of those who have always supported AB Hammer, I hope you choke on this.
As drawn, Mt 67 has more weight above the axle than below it. And yet rlortie and AB Hammer who came up with the "Keel Effect" missed this. Why ? They don't like me. After all, what is shown in Mt 67 would be maintained because of the work that levers do and if you look closely, no levers are shown.
And everyone, I am glad that I am a Norwegian because only an American would attack someone before acknowledging that their "Keel Effect" principle allows for a Bessler drawing to work. As Walt would say, you can't make this stuff up.


Jim

edited to add, I see I got a red dot. Kind of why Scott's rating system is a joke. And why I really have no need to post in here. After all, this is a social forum. But if people want credit for knowing something then they should take the time to learn. Kind of why AB Hammer is well liked, he doesn't ask anyone to learn something about engineering as that would help to understand Bessler's wheel. This is the wrong forum for that.

edited to add; if you were to ask Congressman Barr, I think he would say I am an American. Still, I think in the end people will think it's funny that I was the most hated person at besslerwheel dot com because I was willing to work at and learn what Bessler knew. That kind of makes people look bad who want to be credible without taking the time to do the work.

[ChrisHarper]

God, if I wanted to listen to people moaning and bitching about nothing here, I would have stayed with my ex-wife😂

Unless there are active hidden groups Where active members go, it would appear that this forum is in terminal decline . RIP☠️

🚶🏼See ya.

Chris

[preoccupied]

Don't be like that ChrisHarper... This forum is usually slow to receive posts. James Lingard just posts every day almost so it looks like his forum. This is a HUGE reservoir of perpetual motion machine enthusiasm for decades, you have no right to complain Chris. This is a good forum.

[ChrisHarper]

Preoccupied ,

I've been an active member since joining in March 2010, under the pseudonym 'Triplock' and I enjoyed every minute of the discussions I had here over that time.

With the exception of Tarsier, no real substantive postings remain. Maybe I bore easy now lol

Chris

[james.lindgard]

Don't be like that ChrisHarper... This forum is usually slow to receive posts. James Lingard just posts every day almost so it looks like his forum. This is a HUGE reservoir of perpetual motion machine enthusiasm for decades, you have no right to complain Chris. This is a good forum.

Preoccupied,
I think over the last few years I have done the most building. It is my mistake in trying to share my work with members of this forum. I know now that is a mistake.
I think you'll like this post of AB Hammer's from overunity dot com and Preoccupied, I have seen what others post when I am not in here.
I think his post is wrong. In my opinion, he was the other person. If not, then he wouldn't be discussing with me what we want.


preoccupied while I might have made a couple of posts outside of this thread, I've basically have stayed in my thread.
Anybody who wants to can start their own thread and show their own work. Even you could start your own thread to discuss your own ideas but you didn't, you needed my thread
You and ab hammer can have this thread but not my work. After all, it requires effort to build it.

[rlortie]

Chris,

I too tire of the moaning and bitching, but I am still here!

Unfortunately I have not responded to any of your input as I cannot grasp it as something to utilize in a PM machine. I have become somewhat biased towards levers, weights and springs holding the answer we seek.

I share nothing of my research as it does not comply with Bessler or his red hearing clues. No one is interested in my views, this saves me time complying/responding to those not concerned with my research path of molecular motion rather than levers and weights.

You are but one of two members here that have had the opportunity to review my present skunk works concept. You both could not find any faults but you both emphatically showed concerned with the friction factor involved using seventy components.

Be advised that using aviation technology those components have been reduced in weight to 7.8 ounces [0.2211263 kg] in comparison to Bessler's alleged four pound weights. Made of composite material they beat friction aka static inertia at an incline of 37 degrees.

I wish you luck and hope the best for the both of us.

Ralph

[WaltzCee]

With the exception of Tarsier, no real substantive postings remain. Maybe I bore easy now lol

Chris

Come on Chris, you hurt my feelings. Sit a spell. Get some suds and something off the barbie. :P

[AB Hammer]

AB Hammer,
It is only you. First Lady Michelle Obama wants me to be healthy. And she hasn't repeatedly called me a fraud either.
And I think this post f yours shows that you're ignorant. That's the only way I can put it. You see what you over looked is that MT 67 works according to the "Keel Effect".
And as you mentioned, the "Keel Effect" shows what I am building will not work. And for all of those who have always supported AB Hammer, I hope you choke on this.
As drawn, Mt 67 has more weight above the axle than below it. And yet rlortie and AB Hammer who came up with the "Keel Effect" missed this. Why ? They don't like me. After all, what is shown in Mt 67 would be maintained because of the work that levers do and if you look closely, no levers are shown.
And everyone, I am glad that I am a Norwegian because only an American would attack someone before acknowledging that their "Keel Effect" principle allows for a Bessler drawing to work. As Walt would say, you can't make this stuff up.


Jim

edited to add, I see I got a red dot. Kind of why Scott's rating system is a joke. And why I really have no need to post in here. After all, this is a social forum. But if people want credit for knowing something then they should take the time to learn. Kind of why AB Hammer is well liked, he doesn't ask anyone to learn something about engineering as that would help to understand Bessler's wheel. This is the wrong forum for that.

edited to add; if you were to ask Congressman Barr, I think he would say I am an American. Still, I think in the end people will think it's funny that I was the most hated person at besslerwheel dot com because I was willing to work at and learn what Bessler knew. That kind of makes people look bad who want to be credible without taking the time to do the work.

Well then Lindgaard

explain how this wheel would work when it didn't. That seems to be your argument, and history has proven otherwise. It is well known that the MTs do not work as they are drawn. Over 300 years of attempts and all have failed. Yet there are parts that can be used in other directions, if you open your mind.

http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/downl ... er=user_id

PS to save confusion I use the 3:00 to 9:00 line now days. I am not the one who came up with the keel effect statement.

[ChrisHarper]

Ralph,

I'm pleased that you have continued with your skunk works project and that you have done all you can to overcome the issues highlighted previously.

For me, the design leads the race interms of an invention that is fit for purpose and most likely to succeed .

I have never been able to totally discount your design Ralph. At the very least its uniqueness is truly inspiring, and it is will act as a masterclass to others in lateral thinking once disclosed by yourself only. True engineering at its finest.

Best wishes Boss,

Chris 🐂

[james.lindgard]

AB Hammer,
It is only you. First Lady Michelle Obama wants me to be healthy. And she hasn't repeatedly called me a fraud either.
And I think this post f yours shows that you're ignorant. That's the only way I can put it. You see what you over looked is that MT 67 works according to the "Keel Effect".
And as you mentioned, the "Keel Effect" shows what I am building will not work. And for all of those who have always supported AB Hammer, I hope you choke on this.
As drawn, Mt 67 has more weight above the axle than below it. And yet rlortie and AB Hammer who came up with the "Keel Effect" missed this. Why ? They don't like me. After all, what is shown in Mt 67 would be maintained because of the work that levers do and if you look closely, no levers are shown.
And everyone, I am glad that I am a Norwegian because only an American would attack someone before acknowledging that their "Keel Effect" principle allows for a Bessler drawing to work. As Walt would say, you can't make this stuff up.


Jim

edited to add, I see I got a red dot. Kind of why Scott's rating system is a joke. And why I really have no need to post in here. After all, this is a social forum. But if people want credit for knowing something then they should take the time to learn. Kind of why AB Hammer is well liked, he doesn't ask anyone to learn something about engineering as that would help to understand Bessler's wheel. This is the wrong forum for that.

edited to add; if you were to ask Congressman Barr, I think he would say I am an American. Still, I think in the end people will think it's funny that I was the most hated person at besslerwheel dot com because I was willing to work at and learn what Bessler knew. That kind of makes people look bad who want to be credible without taking the time to do the work.

Well then Lindgaard

explain how this wheel would work when it didn't. That seems to be your argument, and history has proven otherwise. It is well known that the MTs do not work as they are drawn. Over 300 years of attempts and all have failed. Yet there are parts that can be used in other directions, if you open your mind.

http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/downl ... er=user_id

PS to save confusion I use the 3:00 to 9:00 line now days. I am not the one who came up with the keel effect statement.

ab hammer,
All you have are stupid mind games.

>> explain how this wheel would work when it didn't. <<

Shows all you have are mind games. Myself, I tend to doubt anyone in here believes perpetual motion is possible. Otherwise your disrupting my threads for 10 years would not have been permitted.
I think I will stick with you are a homosexual and you want me. If not then you would let me post with other people.

And this is your thread Alan. Show what an American can do not what an Ameri can't do. Your friends do say I am a Norwegian, right ?

edited to add; and ab hammer, my mind is open, why I know you are playing games. You want to show everyone how you can play with me because you are a bored retiree with nothing else to do and to keep it simple, I am not your Boy Toy. You should look elsewhere.

And Alan, because you have tried to constantly discredit me, I can't show my work in here until after I am finished and then will not be allowed to discuss it. After all, you do want me to dance for you, right ?
Why you're asking me how something that didn't work could and it could work if I am dancing for you. Otherwise it can't work because I wouldn't be doing for you. Right ? Right !

[ChrisHarper]

Jim,

A valuable life lesson I learnt was to know when to just draw a line under a situation and move on, else things become a self fulfilling prophecy as you seek to address some perceived slight or wrong doing.

If you don't , rightly or wrongly, you'll just come across as a tin-foil hat, moon howling, imaginary-fly swatting but-job ( which I'm sure you're not.).

If you have designs to discuss, just start afresh mate, take a breather, then post a new topic. Do that and I'll give you a green dot , no problem.

Chris

[james.lindgard]

You're funny. I can't build until after I have surgery. And yet AB Hammer wanted me to explain it to him how it could work even though it didn't. I like the way people support him. I think it's their way of showing their jealousy. After all, most of the well respected members in here fell in love with Bessler's words while I was the only one who listened to Bessler and is why I call my work Bessler's wheel. Besides, a person I know in the Netherlands has opened his mind to consider showing a Bessler book, it's an original along with a working Bessler wheel that I am going to be building.
When I consider that and then the word play in here, I know who I want to be associated with :-)

[AB Hammer]

ab hammer,
All you have are stupid mind games.

>> explain how this wheel would work when it didn't. <<

Shows all you have are mind games. Myself, I tend to doubt anyone in here believes perpetual motion is possible. Otherwise your disrupting my threads for 10 years would not have been permitted.
I think I will stick with you are a homosexual and you want me. If not then you would let me post with other people.

And this is your thread Alan. Show what an American can do not what an Ameri can't do. Your friends do say I am a Norwegian, right ?

edited to add; and ab hammer, my mind is open, why I know you are playing games. You want to show everyone how you can play with me because you are a bored retiree with nothing else to do and to keep it simple, I am not your Boy Toy. You should look elsewhere.

And Alan, because you have tried to constantly discredit me, I can't show my work in here until after I am finished and then will not be allowed to discuss it. After all, you do want me to dance for you, right ?
Why you're asking me how something that didn't work could and it could work if I am dancing for you. Otherwise it can't work because I wouldn't be doing for you. Right ? Right !

Everything in red is Lindgaards delusion. Blaming me of everything of what he does and is.

[AB Hammer]

You're funny. I can't build until after I have surgery. And yet AB Hammer wanted me to explain it to him how it could work even though it didn't. I like the way people support him. I think it's their way of showing their jealousy. After all, most of the well respected members in here fell in love with Bessler's words while I was the only one who listened to Bessler and is why I call my work Bessler's wheel. Besides, a person I know in the Netherlands has opened his mind to consider showing a Bessler book, it's an original along with a working Bessler wheel that I am going to be building.
When I consider that and then the word play in here, I know who I want to be associated with :-)

Lindgaard

Quit wasting my and others time. If you wanted to build? A real inventor would find a way. It only take your hands and you have been use them for typing. So no problems with your hands.

I don't blame anyone else but myself for my failures. So why do you blame others? A responsible person doesn't blame others for what they do or what they haven't done.

The only jealous one here is you.

[preoccupied]

You guys don't even realize what is right in front of you. I've shared Bessler's wheel. I'm just warning you that if you use it to produce electricity for the cities of the world that it will kill all life on Earth by changing the planets orbit around the sun. Right here in this forum topic I've shown you the real Bessler's wheel. I'm premature to share it with you like this, presented with no decent draft and proof. But I really do think it will kill all mankind and the entire world.