Big Troubles Brewing For The Theoretical Physics Smart-Set!!!

[MrVibrating]

That's the rub, mate... trying to come up with a plausible hypothesis or replication for a hoax is just a vicious waste of our efforts. The only reason we can justify that risk in the Bessler case is the strength of the circumstantial evidence.

Just a demo of the machine in an impromptu location like a pub or cafe, and being allowed to see it run as the claimant moves a few feet away (in case he's concealing a coil or something in his pocket).. that would be enough to justify further investigation.

[agor95]

Big Troubles Brewing For The Theoretical Physics Smart-Set!!!

There maybe a possibility that the binding forces between particles could be looked at as pressure forces from outside.

I use the term particles to be photons and atoms.

There is a lot of energy in the random vibrations outside.

The vibration modes between the particles is limited.

This causes the particles to be pushed together.

This maybe more significant that current Theoretical Physics understand at this time.

[ovyyus]

And if you don't believe in the devil you'll never understand Bessler.

The problem with belief is that it's all or nothing.

[ME]

Ovyyus, (darn) agreed.

[daanopperman]

@ Tarsier97

There have to be a component of the movement of the leave spring over the can that is traveling in the same direction as the cam , iow , it in not simply a up and down force working in on the can , it is also pushing the can arm away from the spring ground .
The same as in a wave .

[Tarsier79]

Daan.

When the pin pushes down further along the spring, it has to exert slightly less pressure, but over a larger arc. The spring appears to bounce slightly at the end, wasting energy instead of pushing back against the pin. The spring then pushes back over a shorter arc, but with slightly more force, just like the "pedalling gravity" thread, including the impressive build from AB.

I could be mistaken, but in this case, I doubt it.

[daanopperman]

Hi Tarsier79 ,

Yes I understand that part , what I am getting at , is when the spring is compressed , the compression point moves a tiny wee bit closer to the grounded side of the spring , like when a pendulum swing , the bob will ascend , while it is moving left or right , this movement will follow the cam while the spring is returning , not in the downward direction , but pushing the cam away from the grounded side for free .
It is like having a AC flow , ( up and down osculation ) and a pulsing DC flow in the horizontal direction . The DC pulses is due to the position of the cam wrt the position of the spring , short arm , long arm , where the long arm is dominant .
If something is laying on the water , and you make waves , the body will soon be moving away from the source of the wave , in this case , the spring is the wave , besides going up and down , the spring will push the cam in a horizontal plane a wee bit .

[Nobody]

And if you don't believe in the devil you'll never understand Bessler.

The problem with belief is that it's all or nothing.

This is merely my personal opinion, but I think that one must strongly belief in God, the Bible and the existence of the devil,
to entirely understand Bessler and his writings.

With best regards,
Nobody

[ovyyus]

All good boys and girls go to heaven, but not their pets.

[agor95]

I have been thinking there is a paradox with Bessler's clues.

I am thinking the device is simple and he has just told us the solution.
Then stated he had not in his information.

So the wheel is simple and the description is in plan view.

Then the Smart-Set walk right past the solution?

[eccentrically1]

What was walked past?

[agor95]

http://www.orffyre.com/mt121-143.html

MT135

Hollow Axle with holes
Rods that slide through the axle holes.

Place springs on each rod with a weights on the rod ends.

The description needs 4 rods and 8 weights and springs.

Control the rotation for your implementation.

If this had boards around the outside then it would bang in the correct place.
It would rotate is both directions.

There would be a sliding noise.

It would use springs.

The weights would be heavy along the bottom and light along the top.

The weights would swap place in pairs.

The weights are free to swing.

it is really simple.

[eccentrically1]

I think someone tried that. The springs/rods/weights won't spring back to where they start, if I'm picturing your idea correctly.

[agor95]

A little computer modeling is in order :-)

Just wondering how many clues fit the model?

[WaltzCee]

I am thinking the device is simple and he has just told us the solution.

Do you see big trouble brewing?