Quotes and Unquotes

[Art]

A PENTA bellows !!

How come this guy isn't in the forum ? Or is he ?

Is that you James ?

https://youtu.be/zOS7Q3Ui-AA Bellows Engine Pentabellows

[Art]

" Study a step towards closed loop , carbon neutral energy future "

An accidental step in the right direction .

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-21/e ... ol/7954546

[Dorothy]

Quote :-"I fear the day that technology will surpass our human interaction . The world will have a generation of idiots ."
- Albert Einstein


"What I don't understand I despise, what I despise I reject."
- The Referee's Creed

"The universe is like a safe to which there is a combination. But the combination is locked up in the safe."
- Peter De Vries

"But a Republican wouldn't care about that."
- Preoccupied

"You've always struck me as a redneck biker who would support Trump and think Hillary as evil incarnate"
- Grimer

" Nice to hear the uncensored view of one of the natives. ;-)"
- Grimer

Come on Toto , We have a long road to travel !

- Dorothy

[Furcurequs]

"Goodbye Yellow Brick Road" - Bernie Taupin (and sung by Elton John)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBwqdA7_4lo

[Art]

“A wheel appears - is it really a wheel, for it does not have a normal rim.� ---Bessler


http://www.kismeta.com/diGrasse/this_old_wheel.htm

I wonder which kind of rim Bessler had in mind ?

Also take a look at the similarities between fig 1 in the link above and Besslers MT 135 and MT 137 , --ie 12 spokes !

And MT 134 , -- ie fig 1 in above link has the strake drawn with 8 raised 'corrugations ' while MT 134 has similar (?) 4 'corrugations' attached to 16 'spokes ' .

Not a normal rim ! Curious ! Do we still have 'spokes ' though to make it a wheel ?

[Stewart]

I think a better translation would be:

Man sieht ein Rad/ und auch kein Rad/
Weils Felgen und auch keine hat/

one sees a wheel, and also no wheel,
because it has felloes and also none,

Felloes are the individual pieces making up the rim (see diagram).

Stewart

[Art]

Thanks Stewart for that quick response which crossed with my edit of the above post ! : )

Your translation actually gives better 'meaning ' to the drawing in MT 134 . Are those spokes with the attached 'corrugations' "felloes and also none " ?

Interesting !

[Stewart]

And MT 134 , -- ie fig 1 in above link has the strake drawn with 8 raised 'corrugations ' while MT 134 has similar (?) 4 'corrugations' attached to 16 'spokes ' .

I think even without the 'corrugations', the link to MT134 can be made. Ed and I have discussed this over the years as being a possible connection to those lines.

Not a normal rim ! Curious ! Do we still have 'spokes ' though to make it a wheel ?

There are spokes. Don't forget it says it's a wheel but also not a wheel, i.e. it could never function in the same way as a cart wheel, but does still resemble a wheel. It also "boasts like a peacocks tail". Other lines seem to fit well too.

Are those spokes with the attached 'corrugations' "felloes and also none " ?

I certainly think it's possible, don't you?

Another possibility, as these lines come from AP, is that it's referring to the 'wheel' image at the end of AP.

Stewart

P.S. Shame this discussion is in Off-Topic!

[Art]

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"P.S. Shame this discussion is in Off-Topic!"

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Yeah , I dunno !

Its probably nice and safe from the MIB's here : )

[Silvertiger]

"Throughout space there is energy. Is this energy static or kinetic! If static our hopes are in vain; if kinetic — and this we know it is, for certain — then it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheelwork of nature."

- Nikola Tesla

[agor95]

For some time I was looking at Peacock Tail as a weight path clue.

However Peacocks display the tail. So the extending of the spokes here could be the display clue.

This model uses an alternative to the fellow boards.

that were around Bessler's Wheel; However both exist for the same reason.


P.S. The 4 : 1 clue is interesting and worth solving.

Regards

[Art]

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"Ed's Coral Castle Quarry and Flywheel , Engineering Mystery Solved " -

-Some brilliant investigation by Scott Russel .

.

We should ask him to have a go at " Bessler An Ancient Mystery Solved " ! : )

https://youtu.be/nOoCuDnmtyM

[murilo]

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... B_20170524

I bet this is a new stuff to all... B]

[ME]

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... B_20170524

“We expected scientists to have a more realistic picture, but they see a larger difference,� she says.
(Some of these perceptions may be accurate, of course, but other research would be needed to determine that.)

Seems only fair a psychologist tries to add some irrationality in a normally rational exercise. It's basically their job to seek out and undermine that rational which is blocking some emotional clod, and kick in some seemingly open doors.
It seems important to know that scientists are not always self-aware about being just as like Normal people even though they rationalize the complete range from colleague till universe and beyond.

In addition, our research suggests that scientists are not immune to the human tendency to believe that members of one’s own social group are less fallible than members of other groups

Rational people have more affinity with things when these things need to be rationalized.
Emotional people get all kinds of weird sensations when they get personally involved and start to empathize.
People who tend to be more aware of other groups than their own group will likely experience jealousy or fear when judging those groups at an emotional level, feel superior or hostility when rationally, and likely conflicted (as like a bunny in the headlights) when trying to be, do and feel both - and nevertheless stubbornly claim "I told you so" as an excuse to enforce action... Fragile stuff.
(Some of these perceptions may be accurate, of course, but other research would be needed to determine that.)

In other news:
- Ballet Dancers found their Work keeps them on their Toes.
- Painters and Photographers distinguish more Colors than some Average Dude.
- Perfect Pitch Perception mainly Found in the Music Scene.
- Rational Scientist in Tears when Paper Published a Month too Late.

This is one for a T-shirt:

• Scientists are just like Normal people.
  The difference: Scientist can Proof it.

[murilo]

Marchello,
come on!
Nothing personal!

For the other side, it will be too hard to change my definition: engineers and technicians are those heroic guys who try to keep all books, formulas, solutions, knowledge and responses to every questions... Inventors are those lousy guys who make the questions, so as to use intuition and perspicacity...

It's painful and human, anyhow!
Best!
M