The secret behind Bessler's wheel...
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re: The secret behind Bessler's wheel...
I am closing in to Bessler's wheel secret.
After long drawn, careful study of this drawings, and through trial and error in my build attempts, I think I am learning more about his pendulums setups.
I am on the right tract.
Raj
After long drawn, careful study of this drawings, and through trial and error in my build attempts, I think I am learning more about his pendulums setups.
I am on the right tract.
Raj
Keep learning till the end.
Pretty sure he did something with pendulums. It's not by chance that the word "swinging" is mentioned that often. External appearances may there for leading conclusions. Let's assume that pendular movements are essential parts of his wheel but without the need of fixed points. Everything around the main shaft should revolve within the wheel itself, is mounted on them only. At least for my mind to allow a possibility.
re: The secret behind Bessler's wheel...
I hope you like this one.
1. a heavy rimmed drum wheel/flywheel on axle.
2. a heavy cylindrical disc, resting/rolling on inner rim/circular channel
3. 2 cranks/levers pivoting/swinging on diametrically opposite pivots on either sides of disc.
4. 2 pendulums pivoting/swinging on axle, with bobs/weights in movable linkage with cranks/levers.
Raj
1. a heavy rimmed drum wheel/flywheel on axle.
2. a heavy cylindrical disc, resting/rolling on inner rim/circular channel
3. 2 cranks/levers pivoting/swinging on diametrically opposite pivots on either sides of disc.
4. 2 pendulums pivoting/swinging on axle, with bobs/weights in movable linkage with cranks/levers.
Raj
Keep learning till the end.
Tuning the set of pendulums is not easy! What works for 30 rpm's does not work for 0 to 20 rpm's. The pendulums HAVE to be set for a particular rpm range. Set at the proper rpm range they are a burden at low rpm, and a burden at higher rpm. The 10 degree slant of the pendulums, while the wheel is at top dead center, is a clue! This was done for a reason.
re: The secret behind Bessler's wheel...
Here it is...
1 is a heavy rimmed flywheel.
2 is axle.
3 is heavy disc resting/rolling on inner rim of 1.
4 are cranks/levers pivoting on diametrically opposite points on either side of 3.
5 are pendulums pivoting on 2.
6 are bobs/weights on 5 in movable connection with 4.
Raj
1 is a heavy rimmed flywheel.
2 is axle.
3 is heavy disc resting/rolling on inner rim of 1.
4 are cranks/levers pivoting on diametrically opposite points on either side of 3.
5 are pendulums pivoting on 2.
6 are bobs/weights on 5 in movable connection with 4.
Raj
Keep learning till the end.
re: The secret behind Bessler's wheel...
Jonnynet, Thank you.
We have done it.
Just apply ratchet system in the pivot bearings of the pendulums on the axle, as shown by Bessler in MT 51, so that they cannot swing downwards freely but instead they get hooked to the axle at their highest upward position and move together with the flywheel, applying positive torque at the same time, down to the six o'clock position, just to be lifted back from here by the rotating wheels.
Please read Bessler's explanation of MT 51.
Raj
We have done it.
Just apply ratchet system in the pivot bearings of the pendulums on the axle, as shown by Bessler in MT 51, so that they cannot swing downwards freely but instead they get hooked to the axle at their highest upward position and move together with the flywheel, applying positive torque at the same time, down to the six o'clock position, just to be lifted back from here by the rotating wheels.
Please read Bessler's explanation of MT 51.
Raj
Keep learning till the end.
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What I think is most interesting about Raj idea is that there is two levers focusing on one spot at an inner wheel. There might be an advantageous way to lift a lever using a pulley to add mechanical advantage or more weight onto the inner wheel that exceeds the force necessary to lift the pulley. I think that this might be even more possible if a dropping of a lever balances the lifted lever some because that would leave less force required to lift the pulley then.
drawing b13 that I made in MS Paint shows the levers trying to get to a right angle to the axis at the top of the wheel because I'm still pretty preoccupied with right angles. On the right side the levers should be hanging naturally and the top lever on the right should twist out of its center of gravity and pull the inner wheel clockwise by pulling outward. The bottom two levers on the right should push falling inward into the rim of the wheel. So everything on the right side turns the wheel clockwise a little. I want the pulley to lift the left top lever up so that it's at a right angle to the top of the rim of the inner wheel indicated by the upwards arrow in the drawing. Then it will push the wheel clockwise by pushing inward into the rim of the wheel as the wheel moves further away and downward. And will have to fall back into a natural position indicated by the downward arrow in the drawing where it should provide some assistance in lifting the next lever up to a right angle position.
drawing b13 that I made in MS Paint shows the levers trying to get to a right angle to the axis at the top of the wheel because I'm still pretty preoccupied with right angles. On the right side the levers should be hanging naturally and the top lever on the right should twist out of its center of gravity and pull the inner wheel clockwise by pulling outward. The bottom two levers on the right should push falling inward into the rim of the wheel. So everything on the right side turns the wheel clockwise a little. I want the pulley to lift the left top lever up so that it's at a right angle to the top of the rim of the inner wheel indicated by the upwards arrow in the drawing. Then it will push the wheel clockwise by pushing inward into the rim of the wheel as the wheel moves further away and downward. And will have to fall back into a natural position indicated by the downward arrow in the drawing where it should provide some assistance in lifting the next lever up to a right angle position.
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re: The secret behind Bessler's wheel...
@preoccupied.
Jonnynet's video on YouTube and my last explanations about incorporating clockwise locking ratchet bearings as in MT51 in the two pendulums pivots on the axle, ARE PROOF that my Auto Motion Wheel is Already a working wheel concept.
My search is completed.
I have found my wheel concept, whether others see or not.
I am taking my time to produce a physical model.
I am in no rush. Time will show that my Auto Motion Wheel concept breaks the first law of thermodynamics, repeating Bessler's feat 300 years ago ( 1717 to 2017). My concept is deliberately on public domain, open for the world to see, and hence it cannot be blocked.
Anyone in the world is free to build it, if he/she so wish.
Raj
Jonnynet's video on YouTube and my last explanations about incorporating clockwise locking ratchet bearings as in MT51 in the two pendulums pivots on the axle, ARE PROOF that my Auto Motion Wheel is Already a working wheel concept.
My search is completed.
I have found my wheel concept, whether others see or not.
I am taking my time to produce a physical model.
I am in no rush. Time will show that my Auto Motion Wheel concept breaks the first law of thermodynamics, repeating Bessler's feat 300 years ago ( 1717 to 2017). My concept is deliberately on public domain, open for the world to see, and hence it cannot be blocked.
Anyone in the world is free to build it, if he/she so wish.
Raj
Keep learning till the end.
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Raj you have my respect - againAnyone in the world is free to build it, if he/she so wish.
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So now everybody concedes that Raj has found Bessler's Wheel? Is the search over? I feel like there is something disproportional about what I see in the YouTube video but I am not a good scale. I am just eye balling it. If the pendulum falls with the turn of the flywheel then which turns faster, the flywheel or the inner wheel? I feel like one is going to scratch onto the other.
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I don't know what Raj has discovered, but for sure it isn't Bessler's wheel, so the search continues.
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