Simple Tests

[john.smith]

Will be slow going assembling the frame.

[john.smith]

A message from our sponsors @besslerwheel;

john.smith akd James Lindgaard
Post your BS and lies on your own string.

PS I'll just keep reposting your BS on your string until you leave your personal attacks out of your postings.

Time to flush https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-3Iq3XQkAw

[john.smith]

@ab hammer,
When you say
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It is kind of like my eyes and brain see things differently. It allows me to be able to shoot skeet with a pistol, and as a kid could look down at a tile floor and the design of the lines would lift up almost to my knees and seem to float like a ghost. Doing things in 3d became one of my best talents. Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:28 pm Post subject: re: Generating more meaningful debate http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... 60a8a19460 pg. 7
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That is describing autism. Autistic people are known for being able to do that. Nothing special for them because their brains work differently. You've never been diagnosed, right ? Maybe you should talk to a doctor about it.
Why does this matter ? because you're rlortie's attack dog. While he'll say nice things to or about you, he never let you become a part of his arrache build group when he considered you the number 1 builder in this forum. If he actually thought that much of you then you would have been asked to be a part of his build group. He used you.

@All,
I have a perpetual motion page on facebook where I'll be showing my work. If anyone checks my facebook page I am in the process of hiding everything and have unfriended everyone I knew. 1 simple reason. No one has had a problem with doctors refusing to resolve my medical situation. And as for Bessler, I've been trying to keep it a hobby. it is a lot of work and I can see why people without the need don't build. Besides, Alan knows I like A.C. and want to show her some special things. She's just better looking than you guys.

[john.smith]

no retraction disc and was a crappy build.

[agor95]

If you can supply dimensions & masses used then others with illustration and maths skills could help in modelling.

That goes for all our builder members.

Again a physical model is our target, lets us assist using the skills of as many members as possible.

[john.smith]

agor95,
I will need to think about this. Since I am not a doctor I cannot give a diagnosis of autism. I can say that I did go to a psychologist myself and posted in a forum for autistic people. Needless to say, I am not autistic. And discrimination can include people who are autistic. And with AB Hammer he has as much a right as I do to be in this forum. Unfortunately he IMO is not interested in realizing Bessler's work.

It will take me some time to finish my build. One reason why I wouldn't mind seeing a simulation is that most people in here might "get it". What is surprising in a way is that Bessler's wheel IMO fits the description of Conservation of Angular Momentum in a mechanical sense. With this, momentum is conserved when the descending weight rotates the ascending weight upwards. http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/m ... -Principle where net force is F1 - F2.
F2 is angular momentum. http://www.cleonis.nl/physics/phys256/a ... mentum.php

And with Bessler's wheel it is possible that both conservation of momentum and angular momentum need to be considered at the same time.
As far as AB Hammer goes, he will need to consider that he might be autistic. If he is, it is nothing to be ashamed of. Plenty of people are. They say 1 of every 68 births is an autistic child. He'll need to understand that other people might want to go slower or have a say in the modelling.

https://www.autismspeaks.org/what-autism
https://www.autismspeaks.org/sites/defa ... mptoms.pdf

[AB Hammer]

agor95,
I will need to think about this. Since I am not a doctor I cannot give a diagnosis of autism. I can say that I did go to a psychologist myself and posted in a forum for autistic people. Needless to say, I am not autistic. And discrimination can include people who are autistic. And with AB Hammer he has as much a right as I do to be in this forum. Unfortunately he IMO is not interested in realizing Bessler's work.

It will take me some time to finish my build. One reason why I wouldn't mind seeing a simulation is that most people in here might "get it". What is surprising in a way is that Bessler's wheel IMO fits the description of Conservation of Angular Momentum in a mechanical sense. With this, momentum is conserved when the descending weight rotates the ascending weight upwards. http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/m ... -Principle where net force is F1 - F2.
F2 is angular momentum. http://www.cleonis.nl/physics/phys256/a ... mentum.php

And with Bessler's wheel it is possible that both conservation of momentum and angular momentum need to be considered at the same time.
As far as AB Hammer goes, he will need to consider that he might be autistic. If he is, it is nothing to be ashamed of. Plenty of people are. They say 1 of every 68 births is an autistic child. He'll need to understand that other people might want to go slower or have a say in the modelling.

https://www.autismspeaks.org/what-autism
https://www.autismspeaks.org/sites/defa ... mptoms.pdf

LOL Don't confuse autism with better vision capabilities. My vison has served me well.

What you need to do in your build designs is to find out how to work around gravity. Other words make it work for you.
If you don't understand this meaning? You will be able to see it when I get around to posting the builds I'll be finishing later this year.

[agor95]

@AB

I am fine with your visualization method. If you can not imaging then you can not create. simple.

The bar component is good at it's angular momentum of one mass balances the AM of the other.

If you were to visualize zooming into the rotating mass it would be moving in an almost straight line.

For example the earth is round but to us it appears flat.

No flat earth comments please.

[john.smith]

edited to change content;

agor95, if others want to see about making a simulation we could give it a try. I am not sure how easy it would be to simulate the retraction disc and how it works.
The post AB Hammer just made is similar to posts he made at museumofhoaxes.com back in 2008. http://hoaxes.org/forums/viewthread/51/P262

While he doesn't show anything after such posts he shouldn't interfere when other people want to do something. And the quotes attributed to P-Motion are to me. And as you can see, I have been building and testing.

[AB Hammer]

edited to change content;

agor95, if others want to see about making a simulation we could give it a try. I am not sure how easy it would be to simulate the retraction disc and how it works.
The post AB Hammer just made is similar to posts he made at museumofhoaxes.com back in 2008. http://hoaxes.org/forums/viewthread/51/P262

While he doesn't show anything after such posts he shouldn't interfere when other people want to do something. And the quotes attributed to P-Motion are to me. And as you can see, I have been building and testing..

As I stated before recently as well.
http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewt ... c&start=30

When people want something so badly to near obsession if not real obsession. They can fool themselves very easily with small successes of an action. But that doesn't make a true runner.

The question is more. Who believes Bessler did it, or believes he did not.
I believe Bessler did it.

ps I'm not going to spend a lot time posting parts. It just doesn't feel right to me. I will show a finished wheel when I finish. I still have some half done like one I have already posted on youtube. I have built a new stand for the old one was not stable enough for the speed that this one may be possible of doing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5pPaTqd-4w I have had 4 operation since I posted this. It is amazing how much time can pass by when your down.

[john.smith]

AB Hammer,
I am not interested in your work as I have my own work that I am pursuing. Thank you for the offer and if in the future if I decide that I need your expertise on my endeavors I will be sure to contact you.


James A. Lindgaard

edited to add;
@All,
Where I'll be posting my work. This is not an invitation for AB Hammer.
http://www.woodworkforums.com/f289/bess ... ost2050317
or here
https://www.facebook.com/Perpetual-Moti ... 423701405/

[AB Hammer]

AB Hammer,
I am not interested in your work as I have my own work that I am pursuing. Thank you for the offer and if in the future if I decide that I need your expertise on my endeavors I will be sure to contact you.


James A. Lindgaard

edited to add;
@All,
Where I'll be posting my work. This is not an invitation for AB Hammer.
http://www.woodworkforums.com/f289/bess ... ost2050317
or here
https://www.facebook.com/Perpetual-Moti ... 423701405/.

LOL James Lindgaard

In red of your statement.
Then why the hell do you keep bringing me up with your BS??

In indigo of your statement
Responding to your BS is not offering you anything. That is your delusion.

It is real simple. As I have told you for years!!. Don't talk about me and I won't talk back to you.

[john.smith]

Show your work AB Hammer. Start a thread and discuss it. In overunity . com you used to say you were defending yourself. You were. Your vision doesn't allow you to do builds that people find interesting. Here is an example of your work and is probably your best build;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueh2sJXHmG0

In this thread I did offer you an invitation to discuss Bessler's wheel. You did not accept either offer and now are attacking me.
When you say > Don't talk about me < what you mean is do not talk to anyone (IMO). IMO I believe you desire that level of control over me.
And AB Hammer, to think all I've heard you talk about for 10 years is how you are an armorer. And even when I had cancer you were trying to take over my build. You wanted to tell me how it was "new" and that I didn't understand how it was different. You could not let someone with cancer work on something and discuss it with people who were amiable.
My work on Bessler is something that has helped me as I need major surgery. To this you say I don't have problems, you know. I am tired of it Alan. You're a grown man and want what I have but have always refused to work with me.
What is even funnier is when you told me not to mention faith in Jesus. Why would you tell someone not to have faith ?
At Walt, here's the 3 crosses. What most people over look is that pendulums do not have cross bars while crosses do. And as everyone knows Bessler seems to have been a man of deep faith.
And AB Hammer, this is one reason why I kept working at Bessler's wheel. Yet you could not allow for someone who had faith, used math and science (another set of 3) work with other people.
By the way all, the 3 crosses IMHO represent when Jesus died on the cross. He told the thief next to him it is your faith that will save you and that I will see you in paradise.

[john.smith]

A couple of pictures. It's a slow process.

[AB Hammer]

Show your work AB Hammer. Start a thread and discuss it. In overunity . com you used to say you were defending yourself. You were. Your vision doesn't allow you to do builds that people find interesting. Here is an example of your work and is probably your best build;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueh2sJXHmG0

In this thread I did offer you an invitation to discuss Bessler's wheel. You did not accept either offer and now are attacking me.
When you say > Don't talk about me < what you mean is do not talk to anyone (IMO). IMO I believe you desire that level of control over me.
And AB Hammer, to think all I've heard you talk about for 10 years is how you are an armorer. And even when I had cancer you were trying to take over my build. You wanted to tell me how it was "new" and that I didn't understand how it was different. You could not let someone with cancer work on something and discuss it with people who were amiable.
My work on Bessler is something that has helped me as I need major surgery. To this you say I don't have problems, you know. I am tired of it Alan. You're a grown man and want what I have but have always refused to work with me.
What is even funnier is when you told me not to mention faith in Jesus. Why would you tell someone not to have faith ?
At Walt, here's the 3 crosses. What most people over look is that pendulums do not have cross bars while crosses do. And as everyone knows Bessler seems to have been a man of deep faith.
And AB Hammer, this is one reason why I kept working at Bessler's wheel. Yet you could not allow for someone who had faith, used math and science (another set of 3) work with other people.
By the way all, the 3 crosses IMHO represent when Jesus died on the cross. He told the thief next to him it is your faith that will save you and that I will see you in paradise.

You still calling my chaos 66 wheel a bessler attempt. LOL That's how mush you know. Yet it will do more than anything you are building and I call it a toy with interesting effects. NOTHING MORE!

The rest is just more of your BS, and attempting to be shelf righteous and sound intelligent. First you have to be honest.

If you can ever get a wheel to do anything more than flip flop stop and be able to display it like this one. Then you might have something to listen to.
Perpetual Motion machine attempt The V Twin wheel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2XTzFZpYK0