"A man tries to build a perpetual motion machine."

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"A man tries to build a perpetual motion machine."

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...and, wow, look at his attempt:

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Actually, that's a still from a Brazilian movie I just discovered when looking for some more information on the real Brazilian guy we've been following.

I got the pic from here:

http://valedojequi.com/aracuai-polemica ... rettyPhoto

The name of the movie is Kenoma.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0145026/

It looks like it might be worth watching if I can find it somewhere with English subtitles.

Here's a trailer on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI9qs_t30ms
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Interesting find.

Another ball wheel. King size!
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Furcurequs wrote:...and, wow, look at his attempt:

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Actually, that's a still from a Brazilian movie I just discovered when looking for some more information on the real Brazilian guy we've been following.

I got the pic from here:

http://valedojequi.com/aracuai-polemica ... rettyPhoto

The name of the movie is Kenoma.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0145026/

It looks like it might be worth watching if I can find it somewhere with English subtitles.

Here's a trailer on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI9qs_t30ms
Maybe that's where the Ribeiro family got their inspiration from. :-)
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Maybe so.

The wheel doesn't look nearly as big in the following picture, however. I think the odd perspective in that first shot made it look much larger than it actually was, but in this shot it looks more Bessler-sized than Ribeiro-sized:

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Totally fascinating! I wonder if he had any smaller prototypes and if he did, why he didn't stop then.

Maybe it's large because he wanted to get the word out it didn't work, so, he made it large enough to be noticed by the largest number of people.
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Hey Jim,

I assume the movie is fiction rather than a biography or even inspired by any single individual. From what I could find and understand using online translation tools, though, the main character is supposedly trying to convert the machinery of an old mill to a perpetual motion machine.

I guess we'll have to watch the movie if we can find it to answer some of those questions. It seems the main character might have had some smaller devices in that youtube clip.

Oh, and I wonder what has happened to Murilo? I hope he's okay. If he's still looking for help with his build, maybe their movie props department could be interested in his design for a sequel.

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Hi Furcurequs:

I've always wondered why people who apply for patents on devices they just know will work, then join the rest of the world when they don't, bother to obtain the non-working patent. It would seem all they prove is either they want to deceive everyone or are providing the public service of proof these devices don't work.

It appears the Patent Office issues the patents, not because the device works, but because some aspect of the device is patentable.

Perhaps it's exactly that, a biography of someone trying to convert that old mill.

I haven't been here in a while and was not aware Murilo hasn't been around. I hope he's O K, too. I'd bet, he'd be happy to star in such a movie, even if he wouldn't concede his Avalanche device didn't work.

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I found a copy of the movie on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdVfIZ1oxOI

I think it's in Portuguese and without English subtitles. Some nice opening scenery at least. I may watch a little of it later.
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skip ahead to about 30:31 in the Youtube video.
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Fascinating but really crazy
These people are almost certainly crazier than me :-)
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...lol

They at least look more dedicated than me. I need to ramp it up, I guess.

The movie makers did make an impressive wheel. I'm guessing it's just a little bigger than Bessler's. At the end it seems to be a combination of the traditional roller ball and swinging hammer designs.

It's a shame there aren't English subtitles.

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It doesn't end well for the inventor - or the machine. The inventor gets knocked on the head, but gets to see that his invention actually does work before he dies. ...but then his assistant pries the wheel off its support and it slides down the ramp and crashes at the bottom.
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