SELF-EVIDENT universal proof of Self-Rotating Wheel Concept -drawing 091018
Moderator: scott
SELF-EVIDENT universal proof of Self-Rotating Wheel Concept
This is a SELF-EVIDENT universal proof of a Self-Rotating Wheel concept:
1. A wheel(1) on horizontal axle(2).
2. 8 pendulums(3) with bobs/weights(4) pivoting on axle(2), moving in circular orbital path, resting on closed hooks(5) on the ascending side from 6 o'clock to 12 o'clock positions and resting on closed hooks(6) on the descending side from 12 o'clock to 6 o'clock positions.
3. Eight hooks at 45 degrees intervals on rim of wheel, starting from 6 o'clock position, close on ascending side from 6 o'clock to 12 o'clock positions, pushing pendulums upwards and open thereafter, as wheel rotates.
4. Nine hooks at 40 degrees intervals on rim of wheel, starting from 6 o'clock position, close on descending side from 12 o'clock to 6 o'clock positions, resulting in entropy of motion of pendulums and more bobs/weights on the descending side to provide torque and angular momentum for wheel to rotate.
5. Just look closely at this drawing, and visualize it turning counter-clockwise, through 360 degrees, and you will see more bobs/weights torque on the descending side through 360 degrees before resetting position.
You are FREE to TEST this any way you can.
This Self-Rotating Entropy Wheel concept is patent pending:GB1816411.1
Raj
1. A wheel(1) on horizontal axle(2).
2. 8 pendulums(3) with bobs/weights(4) pivoting on axle(2), moving in circular orbital path, resting on closed hooks(5) on the ascending side from 6 o'clock to 12 o'clock positions and resting on closed hooks(6) on the descending side from 12 o'clock to 6 o'clock positions.
3. Eight hooks at 45 degrees intervals on rim of wheel, starting from 6 o'clock position, close on ascending side from 6 o'clock to 12 o'clock positions, pushing pendulums upwards and open thereafter, as wheel rotates.
4. Nine hooks at 40 degrees intervals on rim of wheel, starting from 6 o'clock position, close on descending side from 12 o'clock to 6 o'clock positions, resulting in entropy of motion of pendulums and more bobs/weights on the descending side to provide torque and angular momentum for wheel to rotate.
5. Just look closely at this drawing, and visualize it turning counter-clockwise, through 360 degrees, and you will see more bobs/weights torque on the descending side through 360 degrees before resetting position.
You are FREE to TEST this any way you can.
This Self-Rotating Entropy Wheel concept is patent pending:GB1816411.1
Raj
Keep learning till the end.
re: SELF-EVIDENT universal proof of Self-Rotating Wheel Conc
It's self-evident this is another argument won against the 'self-evident universal proof'. You're free to test and prove otherwise.
re: SELF-EVIDENT universal proof of Self-Rotating Wheel Conc
Absolutely WISE advice
This is example of overflowing wisdom drowning new thoughts..
Self-evident response.
Still can't see the tree from the forest?
Still can't see ANY novelty?
Can't you see 'ENTROPY" at work, for the first time in a wheel concept on this forum!?
OMG!!!
I do not think it was necessary, your response.
It does neither help nor hinder my thought process.
Thank you, anyway, for your much time-consuming effort!
Raj
This is example of overflowing wisdom drowning new thoughts..
Self-evident response.
Still can't see the tree from the forest?
Still can't see ANY novelty?
Can't you see 'ENTROPY" at work, for the first time in a wheel concept on this forum!?
OMG!!!
I do not think it was necessary, your response.
It does neither help nor hinder my thought process.
Thank you, anyway, for your much time-consuming effort!
Raj
Keep learning till the end.
re: SELF-EVIDENT universal proof of Self-Rotating Wheel Conc
Come to think of it, this thread is making some on this forum, feel a BITTER taste by the presentation of a completely unusual, out-of-the-box, SIMPLEST wheel concept that school children could have drawn.
Raj
Raj
Keep learning till the end.
-
- Devotee
- Posts: 1718
- Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2003 12:22 pm
- Location: Speyer, Germany
- Contact:
re: SELF-EVIDENT universal proof of Self-Rotating Wheel Conc
Hi Raj,
this construction is worth to have a closer look.
In fact this version is self starting and always out of balance wheel, it can not be balanced again.
A clever, very simple solution.
Maybe you don't see it yourself Raj, what you had drawn here.
Congratulation for this design !! Can I make a copy of it ?
I will variate some pieces.
this construction is worth to have a closer look.
In fact this version is self starting and always out of balance wheel, it can not be balanced again.
A clever, very simple solution.
Maybe you don't see it yourself Raj, what you had drawn here.
Congratulation for this design !! Can I make a copy of it ?
I will variate some pieces.
Best regards
Georg
Georg
re: SELF-EVIDENT universal proof of Self-Rotating Wheel Conc
It should be self-evident by now that physics doesn't care what you say or believe. Build it and see.
re: SELF-EVIDENT universal proof of Self-Rotating Wheel Conc
There are many familiar patterns of behavior in this field of research, Raj...
Step back
be patient
Stating a "proof of concept" with no proof will yield no positive results.
A patent or the reference to one will not lend credibility either.
There are a lot of tropes in this field that have become rote and only add to the suspicion of an authors authenticity.
If you believe you have a workable design, you MUST build it.
The "Wright Brothers" would not be known if they had only written about flying a heavier than air machine...
If you try to put the weight of testing on a board of strangers on the internet you will be disappointed.
If you want something done right, do it yourself.
Best of luck!
Step back
be patient
Stating a "proof of concept" with no proof will yield no positive results.
A patent or the reference to one will not lend credibility either.
There are a lot of tropes in this field that have become rote and only add to the suspicion of an authors authenticity.
If you believe you have a workable design, you MUST build it.
The "Wright Brothers" would not be known if they had only written about flying a heavier than air machine...
If you try to put the weight of testing on a board of strangers on the internet you will be disappointed.
If you want something done right, do it yourself.
Best of luck!
"A man with a new idea is a crank until he succeeds."~ M. Twain.
re: SELF-EVIDENT universal proof of Self-Rotating Wheel Conc
Georg, YOU are welcome to use my drawing/s and ALL descriptions and details.
I hesitate to say. This is my best and SIMPLEST wheel concept in my 30+ years of searching and learning by trial and error.
Two days ago, I watched a science program on TV about 'Meaning of numbers', based on 3,6, and 9.
I was overwhelmed by this program.
For the past two days, I am thinking of nothing but numbers. Yesterday afternoon that this new concept began to form in my head, making a few drawings before going to bed, having felt something promising.
This concept uses two different polygon shapes, octagonal and enneagram (both have great religious meanings in all religions) for putting hooks to help synchonise the entropy motion of the eight pendulums/bobs/weights.I went to bed thinking that this would be impossible.
This morning I woke up at 03.30 hours, with this concept problem still in my head. I tried to go back to sleep, because it was still night time. But I couldn't.
I got my drawing stuff in bed, and looked again at if and how the synchronization of pendulums changing from the set of eight hooks to the set of nine hooks and vice-versa.
This was necessary to happen for concept to work and provide more weights and torque on the descending side.
I was overjoyed when I noticed from my drawing that this synchronization was already happening. All that was needed is to find ways and sequence of opening and closing the hooks when needed to hold the pendulums on their circular orbital path.
NOW It's all clear. I can see everything just by looking at this single drawing. I have NO doubts and I can STAKE my life that this concept is a runner, without even it being built yet.
The simplicity of this concept to understand the workings, gives self-evident proof .
When I was in junior school, I was taught Pythagoras geometry and what were self-evident proofs.
This Self-Rotating Entropy Wheel concept and the drawing GIVE self-evident proof.
The non-believer will NEVER see this!
Raj
I hesitate to say. This is my best and SIMPLEST wheel concept in my 30+ years of searching and learning by trial and error.
Two days ago, I watched a science program on TV about 'Meaning of numbers', based on 3,6, and 9.
I was overwhelmed by this program.
For the past two days, I am thinking of nothing but numbers. Yesterday afternoon that this new concept began to form in my head, making a few drawings before going to bed, having felt something promising.
This concept uses two different polygon shapes, octagonal and enneagram (both have great religious meanings in all religions) for putting hooks to help synchonise the entropy motion of the eight pendulums/bobs/weights.I went to bed thinking that this would be impossible.
This morning I woke up at 03.30 hours, with this concept problem still in my head. I tried to go back to sleep, because it was still night time. But I couldn't.
I got my drawing stuff in bed, and looked again at if and how the synchronization of pendulums changing from the set of eight hooks to the set of nine hooks and vice-versa.
This was necessary to happen for concept to work and provide more weights and torque on the descending side.
I was overjoyed when I noticed from my drawing that this synchronization was already happening. All that was needed is to find ways and sequence of opening and closing the hooks when needed to hold the pendulums on their circular orbital path.
NOW It's all clear. I can see everything just by looking at this single drawing. I have NO doubts and I can STAKE my life that this concept is a runner, without even it being built yet.
The simplicity of this concept to understand the workings, gives self-evident proof .
When I was in junior school, I was taught Pythagoras geometry and what were self-evident proofs.
This Self-Rotating Entropy Wheel concept and the drawing GIVE self-evident proof.
The non-believer will NEVER see this!
Raj
Last edited by raj on Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:39 am, edited 2 times in total.
Keep learning till the end.
-
- Devotee
- Posts: 1718
- Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2003 12:22 pm
- Location: Speyer, Germany
- Contact:
re: SELF-EVIDENT universal proof of Self-Rotating Wheel Conc
Thanks Raj,
for me it is still to complex, so I will simplify it more. A Carpenters Boy can do it now.
The more simplified version I will implement in my 2 Meter Wheel when I have it back from Bad Karlshafen. The exhibition ends on 15.10.
Then we will have a proof of concept, in real. I am confident that it will work.
for me it is still to complex, so I will simplify it more. A Carpenters Boy can do it now.
The more simplified version I will implement in my 2 Meter Wheel when I have it back from Bad Karlshafen. The exhibition ends on 15.10.
Then we will have a proof of concept, in real. I am confident that it will work.
Best regards
Georg
Georg
re: SELF-EVIDENT universal proof of Self-Rotating Wheel Conc
Georg, I am coming to London in the first week of December.
Could we meet?
I would LOVE to have you and others as partners, and apply for joint patent/s, ME as inventor/applicant and you/others as applicants.
I remember reading Einstein Theory of Relativity giving a NEW turn to Newton's Theory of Gravity.
Could we be on the verge of giving Newton's Laws of Thermodynamics a NEW turn.
TOO MUCH Wishful thinking! Methinks.
Raj
Could we meet?
I would LOVE to have you and others as partners, and apply for joint patent/s, ME as inventor/applicant and you/others as applicants.
I remember reading Einstein Theory of Relativity giving a NEW turn to Newton's Theory of Gravity.
Could we be on the verge of giving Newton's Laws of Thermodynamics a NEW turn.
TOO MUCH Wishful thinking! Methinks.
Raj
Keep learning till the end.
re: SELF-EVIDENT universal proof of Self-Rotating Wheel Conc
Thanks Oxygon.
Why repeating the OBVIOUS. As if I am a MORON.
All those who follow my threads/posts must have seen hundreds of pictures of all my concepts build attempts, on my Album on this forum.
A few weeks ago, I announced on my previous thread, that I am coming to UK for 5 months, with the hope of having my wheel/s prototypes built by professional craft men, and meet with UK forum members, if they so wish.
So please, please stop telling the importance to build. Believe it or not, I am a mature man. I know what needs to be done, AS FINAL proof!
Raj
Why repeating the OBVIOUS. As if I am a MORON.
All those who follow my threads/posts must have seen hundreds of pictures of all my concepts build attempts, on my Album on this forum.
A few weeks ago, I announced on my previous thread, that I am coming to UK for 5 months, with the hope of having my wheel/s prototypes built by professional craft men, and meet with UK forum members, if they so wish.
So please, please stop telling the importance to build. Believe it or not, I am a mature man. I know what needs to be done, AS FINAL proof!
Raj
Keep learning till the end.
re: SELF-EVIDENT universal proof of Self-Rotating Wheel Conc
A piece of scientific history.
Einstein was so convinced of this Theory of Relativity, from its earliest conception that he promised his wife, in return for divorce agreement, that she could have his Nobel Prize of million dollars, when gets it.
He was so convinced of his concept/theory.
It took ten years for Einstein Theory of Relativity to be proved, NOT by himself but by other people, putting time, money and effort, BECAUSE they believe in his presentation by reading his theory papers.
Einstein, the greatest physicist of modern time, was NEVER told repeatedly: The burden of proof is yours. Prove it yourself, then we will believe you.
Anyone of us, can see something that NO ONE else ever saw. Very few can cope alone in such case.
Raj
Einstein was so convinced of this Theory of Relativity, from its earliest conception that he promised his wife, in return for divorce agreement, that she could have his Nobel Prize of million dollars, when gets it.
He was so convinced of his concept/theory.
It took ten years for Einstein Theory of Relativity to be proved, NOT by himself but by other people, putting time, money and effort, BECAUSE they believe in his presentation by reading his theory papers.
Einstein, the greatest physicist of modern time, was NEVER told repeatedly: The burden of proof is yours. Prove it yourself, then we will believe you.
Anyone of us, can see something that NO ONE else ever saw. Very few can cope alone in such case.
Raj
Keep learning till the end.
-
- Addict
- Posts: 2098
- Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:21 pm
re: SELF-EVIDENT universal proof of Self-Rotating Wheel Conc
Raj, all your weights are the same distance from the axle. It takes exactly the same amount of energy to lift them as you can get from them falling. I can't see this working but good luck.
. I can assure the reader that there is something special behind the stork's bills.
re: SELF-EVIDENT universal proof of Self-Rotating Wheel Conc
Justsomeone, thanks a lot for your interest.
To tell you the truth, I did not carry out a measurement of the distances of the bobs/weights from the axle.
I always draw on graph papers so that viewing and measurement of all components in the drawing/s can be easily checked. I could easily satisfy myself just by looking on the scaled drawing that the combined measurements on the counter-clockwise side is much more than on the other side.
Following your post, I just measured the distances with a metric ruler, and got the following:
On counter-clockwise (left) side, starting from top.
Weight 1: ….4.0 cm
Weight 2: 8.2 cm
weight 3: 9.5 cm
weight 4: 6.6 cm
----------------------
combined 28.3 cm
distance
In the middle:
weight 5 ...0.0 cm
On the clockwise (right) side, starting from top:
Weight 6.....6.5 cm
Weight 7.....9.6 cm
weight 8 ….7.0 cm
-----------------------
Combined 23.1 cm
distance
That gives a very comfortable combined distances (TORQUE) difference on the counter-clockwise side as was expected.
Because of the scaled graph drawing, this type of measurement and torque can be easily found as all eights weights force are acting on the same wheel, on the same rim at the same time even though they continuously with entropy change position on the rim through ONE WHOLE revolution.
Raj
To tell you the truth, I did not carry out a measurement of the distances of the bobs/weights from the axle.
I always draw on graph papers so that viewing and measurement of all components in the drawing/s can be easily checked. I could easily satisfy myself just by looking on the scaled drawing that the combined measurements on the counter-clockwise side is much more than on the other side.
Following your post, I just measured the distances with a metric ruler, and got the following:
On counter-clockwise (left) side, starting from top.
Weight 1: ….4.0 cm
Weight 2: 8.2 cm
weight 3: 9.5 cm
weight 4: 6.6 cm
----------------------
combined 28.3 cm
distance
In the middle:
weight 5 ...0.0 cm
On the clockwise (right) side, starting from top:
Weight 6.....6.5 cm
Weight 7.....9.6 cm
weight 8 ….7.0 cm
-----------------------
Combined 23.1 cm
distance
That gives a very comfortable combined distances (TORQUE) difference on the counter-clockwise side as was expected.
Because of the scaled graph drawing, this type of measurement and torque can be easily found as all eights weights force are acting on the same wheel, on the same rim at the same time even though they continuously with entropy change position on the rim through ONE WHOLE revolution.
Raj
Keep learning till the end.
- John Collins
- Addict
- Posts: 3300
- Joined: Wed Nov 05, 2003 6:33 am
- Location: Warwickshire. England
- Contact:
re: SELF-EVIDENT universal proof of Self-Rotating Wheel Conc
Raj I built and tested this design at least twenty years ago, it’s a non-starter but build it to prove me wrong. 🙂
Read my blog at http://johncollinsnews.blogspot.com/
This is the link to Amy’s TikTok page - over 20 million views for one video! Look up amyepohl on google
See my blog at http://www.gravitywheel.com
This is the link to Amy’s TikTok page - over 20 million views for one video! Look up amyepohl on google
See my blog at http://www.gravitywheel.com