What MT 138 Really IS!

[cloud camper]

Because nature is lazy, those weights are never going to slide soon enough to turn your wheel.

So I wish nature was more helpful but it's not!

[TheVisitorV]

well, actually it does

:))

[Fletcher]

I think people simply get burned out because they are trying to think and nothing happens.

Maybe you need to take a break, let your brain rest, read some clues, and start anew.

Rinse an repeat ! Until success.

If you attempt to understand the physics and retain as much information as you can about B's wheels and his clues, and the witness accounts, then we think surely that is a better omen for success than any other ad hoc approach to solving this mystery. I subscribe to that.

And learn from others mistakes, coz there are far to many for you to make in your life time by yourself. That starts by analysing others attempts at PM devices such as Denver's latest attempts IMO. The analysing of others designs prepares the mind and increases the knowledge of both. A win win.

Rinse and repeat ! Until success.

Doing both opens up neural pathways and opportunities for lateral thought that might otherwise have remained closed off to you.

Simple mechanical solutions require more thought than complex ones, no wonder it been so hard to find.

[TheVisitorV]

Found some very interesting effects, but i'm to tired to make a video and upload...i'll go to sleep and do it when i wake up.

Good night, or morning, wherever you are!

[TheVisitorV]

Morning, managed to make a video and posted it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3fJHQFCq5A

My torment from last night!

Well, it didn't fully went as i wanted but there are quite a number of interesting things about these new ideas. There is an oscillation that actually drives one of the models i filmed. I was surprised cause i didin't planned for it, nevertheless it is....

more testing is required....sooon!

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[cloud camper]

Morning, managed to make a video and posted it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3fJHQFCq5A

My torment from last night!

Well, it didn't fully went as i wanted but there are quite a number of interesting things about these new ideas. There is an oscillation that actually drives one of the models i filmed. I was surprised cause i didin't planned for it, nevertheless it is....

more testing is required....sooon!

It's time to move on from sliding weights - you still have the cart in front of the 🐎 expecting the weights to turn the wheel.

Also without being able to tell where the system com is you are just shooting around in the dark hoping to hit something.

Just spend $25 and get a 6 mo subscription to WM2D then you will know where the system com is.

Then if you notice the com going down you know your design is no good!

The only thing sliding weights are doing for you currently is to lower the com, fooling you into thinking something is happening.

Good luck!

[sequeen]

Everyone is now confusing I am also.
There need some more deep watch.
We can feel it is very close now.
But I feel it will take some more time to find out.
Now I am building examination base plate.
Today I finished to attach a cross-bar to the wheel.
I used linear motion guide to implement cross-bar.
Result will be shown after much failure.
I am sure the wheel will not work by simulation.

I am doing things without interruption.

SK

[ME]

If you can shock it sufficiently, nature can then get confused and do something out of the ordinary.

Lol.
Scare it, and your wheel will run. :-)

Also without being able to tell where the system CoM is you are just shooting around in the dark hoping to hit something.

VisitorV, showing the Center of Mass (or Center of Gravity) should be a default function in such a sophisticated program. I read SpaceClaim has scripting capabilities, so perhaps you could otherwise calculate such weighted average of location yourself.
It's important to know, because it shows which way things try to accelerate (or decelerate).

Knowing where you want that CoM to be in order to gain overbalance, and you'll know which way to move your weights.

[cloud camper]

Everyone is now confusing I am also.
There need some more deep watch.
We can feel it is very close now.
But I feel it will take some more time to find out.
Now I am building examination base plate.
Today I finished to attach a cross-bar to the wheel.
I used linear motion guide to implement cross-bar.
Result will be shown after much failure.
I am sure the wheel will not work by simulation.

I am doing things without interruption.

SK

Hi SK - glad you are still working on your wheel.

Maybe a couple questions for you:

Is your current wheel still based on the 4/1 lifter you showed a while back?

Did you ever simulate the 4/1 lifter and were you able to show the CoM moving up?

That would be fantastic if true!

Also I believe you said the 4/1 lifter works like a pair of vise-grips.
Thats a little confusing to me since vice grips use a long handle throw to produce a tiny grip throw with a huge pressure.

Very nice work on your wheel - it seemed like it was almost working in the video!

Thanks and good luck SK!

[TheVisitorV]

Hey, i'm back, i've been looking in some posts here on the thread and fond inspiration in them....lots of...

so i changed my approach a bit. This is really really cool, Work in progress but still, cool enough to make me wanna share it with you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCnJ8U_hwyI

[TheVisitorV]

cleaned up a bit the model and also removed some of the collision to see what's happening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHMKHB6ywOg

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[TheVisitorV]

HEY SILENT,

yeah , ur right, chain or rope or belts would fix the issue with the linkage but that's all for now, perhaps there is something more to this but right now i have no clue :)

here is a new vid with no dropping weights, i'll do a few more things and post them as i go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFTkqX5a6u4

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