Energy creation

[Georg Künstler]

Hi eccentrically1,
you wrote;

The weights have to "drop" faster than gravity in order to impact the wheel - and make it rotate! - at those rpm's.
Do you still think it was a gravity wheel?

Here I think your thinking is wrong.
Let me explain how i see it.

Depending on the wheel size you can calculate the maximal speed of a weight in free fall. H=1/2 * g *t *t
so with a diameter of 3,40 m we can calculate the speed of the weight hitting the rim.
This will be the maximal speed, in reality you can not reach
the 3,40 Meters, because you must have an internal construction.

now the if: if you have the speed of the weight and mass which is hitting the rim at about 8 o'clock then you can transfer some energy to the standing rim.
Here I say standing rim, because the wheel standstill at the beginning.
You have a speed difference, rim to falling weight, which you can make use of. Rim speed = zero, weight speed = ?

When the Rim begins to turn, speed > zero, weight speed still ?
the wheel will run at constant speed if the difference Rim to falling weight is nearly the same.

To answer your questien, Yes it is a gravity wheel.

[ME]

Senax, also see the stuff posted by Fletcher.

[agor95]

A mass that is rotating around a pivot point can not drop faster than the acceleration due to gravity.

I think you need to investigate this statement further.

We are getting some good points from member today.

I think a few members are explaining my statement better than myself.

Regards

[Senax]

Another limit:
A mass going so fast that centrifugal force equals gravity can never exert a torque by gravity.

On the going down side it's acting in with gravity, in addition to gravity.
On the going up side it's acting against gravity, in subtraction from gravity.

When stuff stays where it is, then it remains where it is and is not going anywhere. Especially not relative down.
Unless there's a hole in that bucket, dear Liza, the following is what I mean:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zulw5bQ18Kk

The water surface will not be vertical when the bucket is at 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock. If you drill holes in the bucket just above the water line then water will spurt out at those points.

Try it if you don't believe me. 😊

[Senax]

Senax, also see the stuff posted by Fletcher.

Link please.

[agor95]

Hi Johndoe2

Some times it's best to read the first post of the thread and ask 'Am I on topic?'

You are thinking some good thoughts in your first post.

It is hard for members, including myself, to put the concepts down sometimes.

This idea to generate a higher energy state - hold it - then release when in a lower energy state. Then use the difference is fine.

I used the term re-gauging some years ago to give it a simple term.

I thought could we make a mechanical bedini wheel http://bedinisg.com

Regards

[WaltzCee]

Another limit:
A mass going so fast that centrifugal force equals gravity can never exert a torque by gravity.

On the going down side it's acting in with gravity, in addition to gravity.
On the going up side it's acting against gravity, in subtraction from gravity.

Heterodyne. Shift some phase, make an impulse/beat
and drive the wheel.

What were the g-forces of Bessler's wheels?

[Senax]

I didn't know what heterodyne meant. In case other members don't I've looked
up the definition.

heterodyneDictionary result for heterodyne

ELECTRONICS
adjective
1.
relating to the production of a lower frequency from the combination of two almost equal high frequencies, as used in radio transmission.
"a heterodyne interferometer"
verb
1.
combine (a high-frequency signal) with another to produce a lower frequency.
"heterodyning converts incoming reference and test signals to 45 Mhz"

Thanks for that WaltzCee. That's very interesting and very perceptive.

It would seem to explain why the DOMINANT FLYWHEEL works. What do you
think?

[rlortie]

A superheterodyne receiver, often shortened to superhet, is a type of radio receiver that uses frequency mixing to convert a received signal to a fixed intermediate frequency (IF) which can be more conveniently processed than the original carrier frequency.
Superheterodyne receiver - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superheterodyne_receiver
Feedback

[WaltzCee]

You're welcome Frank. I think g+c.f. & g-c.f. is a
rabbit hole. It's an old idea. I don't know who to
blame it on.

Mixing the sum & difference with a phase shift
to create a beat to turn a wheel . . .

It's anybody's guess. I say rabbit hole.

I have no idea about the D-flywheel.

[Senax]

You're welcome Frank. I think g+c.f. & g-c.f. is a
rabbit hole. It's an old idea. I don't know who to
blame it on.

Mixing the sum & difference with a phase shift
to create a beat to turn a wheel . . .

It's anybody's guess. I say rabbit hole.

I have no idea about the D-flywheel.

If you restrict it to the vertical dimension I agree with you, Buddy Holly,
but if you include the horizontal that is a whole new ball game.
Too good for lurkers so I'll continue this on the buzz forum.