A simple electric heater, which has efficiency greater than 1

[Georg Künstler]

Hi George1,
if you can change in this deep water, water to oxygen and Hydrogen, then you have an endless energy source.
But assume 1 kg is converted in 10000 Meter deep water.
you can calculate

E=m*g*h
you should read Victor Schauberger's books.

You should also be aware of the black smokers, a chimney in the deep water and a turbine, free energy for millions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrothermal_vent

But as I said, I have other possibilities found, to extract free energy in a circle process.

[George1]

Hi Georg,
Your last post is very, very interesting.
1) Yes, it's obviously possible in principle to use a 10 km vertical construction and generate a huge amount of energy. Perfect! I absolutely agree with you.
1) I will consider carefully the link you have sent to me.
2) Are Victor Schauberger's books available in PDF or in some other covenient electronic format?
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
George

[George1]

Hi Georg,
Yes, this man Victor Shauberger has very interesting concepts and points of view. I keep reading about him.
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
George

[George1]

Hi Georg,
Are there any working V. Shauberger's devices that can be bought and used in one's household for example?
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
George

[George1]

Hi Georg,
Where did you disappear, my friend?
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
George

[Georg Künstler]

Hi George1,
the most of the inventions from him were taken from the US and brought to the United States after the second world war.

The best invention from him was the "Repulsine", which is similar what you are looking for.

The "Repulsine" you can find in the book from#
"Viktor Schauberger Living Energies With Callum Coats"

[George1]

Hi Gyula.
Two members of our team seriously undertake to perform the water-splitting experiments. It will take some time however.
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While waiting for the experimental results let us recapitulate again all theoretical (ONLY THEORETICAL!) considerations until now.
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1) A standard DC voltage source of voltage V is connected to a standard solid resistor of ohmic resistance R. We can write down the following equalities:
V = I x R (1) <=> V x I x t = I x I x R x t (2)
where
V is the voltage of the DC source;
I is the current flowing through the resistor;
R is the ohmic resistance of the resistor;
t is time.
Simple and clear.
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2) The situation changes a little however if we replace the solid resistor of ohmic resistance R with a liquid resistor (electrolyte) of the same ohmic resistance R. In this case we have to adapt a little equalities (1) and (2). We can write down the following equalities and inequalities:
V - v = (I - i) x R (3) <=> (V - v) x (I - i) x t = (I - i) x (I - i) x R x t (4) <=> (V - v) x (I - i) x t < ((I - i) x (I - i) x R x t) + (Z x (I -i) x t x (LHV)) (5) <=>
<=> V -v < ((I -i) x R) + (Z x (LHV)) (6) <=> 0 < Z x (LHV) (7) <=> 0 < 1.2 (8)
where
v is the "counter-voltage" due to electrode potential/overvoltage; (V - v) is practically equal to V because v is much smaller than V and can be neglected;
i is the current decrease due to v; (I - i) is practically equal to I because i is much smaller than I and can be neglected;
Z is the electrochemical equivalent of hydrogen; Z = 0.00000001 C/kg;
LHV is the lower heating value of hydrogen; LHV = 1.2 x 100000000 J/kg.
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The "magic":) inequality (8) unambiguously shows COP > 1. Do you have any theoretical (ONLY THEORETICAL!) objections against inequality (8)?
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
George

[George1]

Hi guys.
Let me report what are we doing now.
We are intensively performing now a set of experiments. But the experiments generate another new question and WE NEED HELP TO INTERPRET THE RELATED EXPERIMENTAL RESULTS which again coincide with our theoretical concept. And here is this new question. (Actually this is an old idea of ours which we check up in the course of experiments and which has even one more additional and more sophisticated variation. The latter will be revealed in future posts, if necessary.)
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1) Let us assume hypothetically that equality V x I x t = (I x I x R x t) + (Z x I x t x (LHV)) is valid.
2) And now let us decrease n times voltage V where R = const and n > 1. This inevitably leads to decreasing of I n times too. In one word, we have now voltage (V/n) and current (I/n) where (V/n) is still bigger than v and (I/n) is still bigger than i. Therefore BASED ON EXPERIMENTAL DATA we can write down the following equality and the related inequality:
V x I x t = (I x I x R x t) + (Z x I x t x (LHV)) <=> (V/n) x (I/n) x t < ((I/n) x (I/n) x R x t) + (Z x (I/n) x t x (LHV)).
The last inequality unambiguously shows again that COP > 1.
So you see that an entirely different approach leads again to the same final result which is again COP > 1. Whatever to do the standard water-splitting electrolysis always has COP > 1.
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What is your opinion?
Looking forward to your answer.
George

[George1]

To Georg Kunstler.
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Hi Georg,
Please put, if possible, an English version in your website. It seems to me very interesting but I do not speak German.
Regards,
George

[silent]

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[andyblues]

Hi George 1 .sorry to be so late in responding it worked out i have lost my password and can not retrieve it so i have rejoined ,George the claims of these devices for health benifits can be seen in nexus magazine ,effects of the expanded water is very interesting as for the claims of browns gas being able to bond /weld different materials together i have welded ali to steel and there are many more claims ,i was only interested in supplimenting the fuel with these cells had some results but not really worth the effort ,what i can say is that when a cell blew up right next to me i have no scar backing up another claim of the gas being very usefull for burns victims ,as for contacting mr wiseman i agree it is nearly impossible however there are contacts in that nexus magazine that point to new manufactures of these cells coming out of asian markets but they seem to only be doing business with other medical suppliers ,yet again very difficult to obtain ,there may be more suppliers in the near future and if there is any thing i can do help please do not hesitate to contact on my new name andyblues all the best

[George1]

To silent.
Thank you, silent. You are a clever man. I followed your good advice and used the Google Chrome translator. Georg Kunstler's machine is really very interesting. I am keeping studying it.
Regards,
George

[George1]

To andyblue.
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Hi andyblue,
Thank you for your post.
1) Actually you advise us to contact the NEXUS magazine, don't you? Did I understand correctly your words?
2) Obviously because of some tehnical problem your message is not very clear. Woud you be so polite to send it again?
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
George

[George1]

Hi guys,
Any comments, opinions, objections?
Regards,
George

[George1]

Hi Georg,
Your machine seems to be working. At what stage of development are your experiments? Do you need help?
Regards,
George