Bessler Used 120 Small Weights To Add Up To One Big One
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Haven’t had time on weekends to start building anything yet, mostly because I needed to set up a good way make the 11 foot long beam.
Did that yesterday. A cabinet shop gave me an old edge bander years ago just to get rid of it, to make space for a new one. I disassembled it soon after for parts, etc. and saved them for a rainy day.
Several of them are 14.5 feet long, so I set up this aluminum box beam that’s 7�x3�, with .5� sidewalls, in order to have a perfectly straight surface to clamp the wooden box beam to.
So next weekend, maybe can start something...
Did that yesterday. A cabinet shop gave me an old edge bander years ago just to get rid of it, to make space for a new one. I disassembled it soon after for parts, etc. and saved them for a rainy day.
Several of them are 14.5 feet long, so I set up this aluminum box beam that’s 7�x3�, with .5� sidewalls, in order to have a perfectly straight surface to clamp the wooden box beam to.
So next weekend, maybe can start something...
re: Bessler Used 120 Small Weights To Add Up To One Big One
If I can show you all a working physical model, I can count on being accused of fraud or copyright/patent infringement?
Lol.
A good reason to show it to John Collins first.
Lol.
A good reason to show it to John Collins first.
re: Bessler Used 120 Small Weights To Add Up To One Big One
As long as you are the FIRST to show a working wheel, and you present it as a whole and entire working wheel, I don't think anyone can claim you used their ideas. The problem is that so many people have claimed a working wheel, but not even one person has proven it. A successful wheel will travel around this globe so fast, there won't be time to sue anyone.
Trying to turn the spinning in my brain into something useful before moving on to the next life.
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A start today towards building the 11 foot long box beam.
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- Box beam being laid up.
re: Bessler Used 120 Small Weights To Add Up To One Big One
Axle - I trust this beam will rock and not rotate?
We would not want a member getting logout by a 11 foot long
rotating double hatchet.
Regards
We would not want a member getting logout by a 11 foot long
rotating double hatchet.
Regards
[MP] Mobiles that perpetuate - external energy allowed
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Thank you for your concern agor.
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From the last post from me above until now, I have not been able to work on this project. This weekend I hope to get back with it.
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re: Bessler Used 120 Small Weights To Add Up To One Big One
This thread has a very good reminder for builders, Size matters!
Did Bessler ever show off any small desk-top models? I think not.
His wheels were BIG! That whole thing of friction vs. torque, goes bad when you build small.
I know you all knew that, but I just got it!
Justalabrat
Did Bessler ever show off any small desk-top models? I think not.
His wheels were BIG! That whole thing of friction vs. torque, goes bad when you build small.
I know you all knew that, but I just got it!
Justalabrat
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Bessler reportedly made a small tabletop wheel in his later years.justalabrat wrote:Did Bessler ever show off any small desk-top models? I think not.
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re: Bessler Used 120 Small Weights To Add Up To One Big One
No. Smaller wheels can be more efficient, moreso if you keep the wheel's mass low. I'm using pennies for weights in my experiments, and they work just fine vs. torque & friction... ;-)His wheels were BIG! That whole thing of friction vs. torque, goes bad when you build small.
"....the mechanism is so simple that even a wheel may be too small to contain it...."
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Hi all!
Today, I actually got the beam assembled and parts glued and nailed together.
I’ve been busy with personal stuff and you know the history of these wheel attempts. Not all consuming any more, but still a believer....
Today, I actually got the beam assembled and parts glued and nailed together.
I’ve been busy with personal stuff and you know the history of these wheel attempts. Not all consuming any more, but still a believer....
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- Beam assembled and clamped to a perfectly flat surface.
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I haven’t assembled anything else besides what is in the last picture, and at this ‘do some-rest-do some more’ pace, I think I see that I can do with one active weight, the same as with any number more than one.
I’m setting up to try one counterbalanced 10lb mass.
The torque is easy to calculate. Again, one 10lb mass off center by 2�, for 360° constantly.
I’m setting up to try one counterbalanced 10lb mass.
The torque is easy to calculate. Again, one 10lb mass off center by 2�, for 360° constantly.
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Just imagine if JB’s wheels were actually run by only one weight.
If one weight exerted constant torque, then dividing it up is pointless.
In my example, one 10 lb constantly 2� off center, or 10ea one lb weights 2� off center.
Both are equal torque. Why complicate things?
Maybe he had 8 noisemaking weights.
If one weight exerted constant torque, then dividing it up is pointless.
In my example, one 10 lb constantly 2� off center, or 10ea one lb weights 2� off center.
Both are equal torque. Why complicate things?
Maybe he had 8 noisemaking weights.