Kreuz?

[gravityman52]

EASY to do........ same weight different moment arm

[Oystein]

Yes, but more weight by "moment arm" and not more in numbers is THE PROBLEM (and not the solution) I described in the first post of my thread "5:3 preponderance..."

Best
ØR

[WaltzCee]

Visiting Germany I was told about the common knowledge (simple fact) that 88 represent HH (alphabetic values) HH, represents for the Nazis Heil Hitler. or even Heinrich Himmler. 88 and HH was not a good thing to promote.. And we could be tempted to say that the origin of SS could represent by visual appearance "55" as the German nazis lead by Heinrich Himmler was heavily into mysticism and ancient secrets. Viewing the SS as an "order" along the lines of the Teutonic Knights. They are even supposed to have been searching and digging for "the arc of the covenant" and other "magic"/biblical artifacts..
. . .

A friend of mine did night security at DARPA in the late 80s, last century. He told me the
director had a Nazi flag hanging up in his office behind his desk.

For me it looks like his principle of perpetual Motion happened to fit the same numbers as the ancient geometric secret figure of "God". the nature philosophers secret figure... (let's not elaborate on that).

My written work, the first book would really benefit from someone building a working wheel and getting Orffyreus known. It only uses small parts of Bessler's anomalies to show how they confirm a historical code/hidden protocol in several of the most important historical artistic work we know. The rumors of an old secret in these works are indeed true. And more than one secret "club" has been working to keep this tradition alive. I believe I can prove that the first inventor of a working PM knew it too. Just a big bonus, why? Because if he kept the secret of the impossible Perpetual Motion, why could't the very possible codes in art be true? A true genius Orffyreus! If Orffyreus documented Albrecht Durer (Leonardo of the North) and Leonardo da Vinci's secret use of a Pythagorean formula and code, and this was RC's secret on which they was founded, I think it's sensational. The initial readers of the first book said that is was sensational without knowing Orffyreus at all, so yes, it would make me a busy man if someone else build a working PM wheel

If I understand what you're saying that's an incredibly bold assertion.

[Oystein]

Yes, that is why I did share my complete work with 3 of the smartest persons I know, with integrity to give me full unbiased feedback.

Because of their feedback I chose to keep free public presentations. To directly feel how the discoveries effect people..

Personally I believe the discoveries are among the most important discoveries made in modern times. Because how we view teaching, bias, profession/pride, The Semmelweis-effect, handling knowledge, new information, research, art, poetry, religion and nature will all have to change or be affected to some degree.. This is my opinion :-) And as I wrote, that is why I had to test it to see if other believe the same to be true..

Best
ØR

[WaltzCee]

This has been enlightening, Oystein. I would that other members of this forum would take
the time to slowly read through these two threads you recently posted, and post their
opinions.

Are you a Rosy Christian?

[Georg Künstler]

gravityman52 wrote:

The basic principle can easily be seen in Besslers notes.... more weight on one side that the other.

gravityman52 wrote:

EASY to do........ same weight different moment arm

Both in combination will work. Definitely.

It is an folding, unfolding action. Like in the peacocks tail.
So we have a delay of the fall on the downgoing side.

We have a non-uniform movement.
8 weights in the bi-directional wheel, and 3 weights in the one directional wheel.

[Oystein]

This has been enlightening, Oystein. I would that other members of this forum would take
the time to slowly read through these two threads you recently posted, and post their
opinions.

Are you a Rosy Christian?

No, If I was, I could't write about it!! So I'm not. And I would NEVER try to gain knowledge if I would have to swear in secrecy for life... though I have spoke privately with Rosicrucians about it.. and got invited to the national leader.. thanx but no thanx. I have read a Norwegian book a film and a series about Rosicrucian codes in written historical works, published by a retired Norwegian mason.

[WaltzCee]

Hello, I have been absent for a while because of important and exhausting personal/family matters. I still have mainly domestic focus, but as an illness has caused me to be stationary at home for a while and as time marches on, I though I would share some interesting information about my work on Bessler's work.

How is your health now?

[Oystein]

Mostly I'm tired from own health problems the last 5 years and much support to a now diagnosed and now good going son. We are all fine, but as I have been tired I have not had time and energy to think about my self, and got stuck with back, hip and leg problem and exhaustion. Pictures show that it must be a muscular/nerve problem and nothing fatal :-) I rest and train hard, and blow some steam here..

Physical training and working on my life's passion (Orffyreus and the codes) fills me slowly with new energy.. This is what I was meant to do. My profession fades compared to a possibility to lay the old secret bare.. I'm such a curious guy ..lol. But the passion and drive is actually to teach people.. also teach people how to be taught..And I'm so fascinated by the fact that we actually can be taught by the unwritten. The human mind is exceptional if no boundaries are given to it.. It was my life long passion as a hard rock/metal musician and virtuous guitar-player I discovered that other peoples boundaries and mindset, put them in a state of status quo, happy with the picture painted for them through school and upbringing..as ordinary "minds" and ordinary people..all is done and all worth knowing is discovered etc. There are also several specific people I want to "bust" intellectually before I pass away...

[Senax]

Tell me Oystein whether you think rasselasss is a Orange Order Freemason from
the name he has chosen for this forum.

Give me an interpretation of his name and see if it's the same as mine. 🙂

To save you looking up his profile he comes from Northern Ireland which
obviously increases the probability.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo3uwvwEucg

[Andyb]

Oystein,try a good sauna a good massage and a bucket of vitamin c and regular silver edge colloidual silver,that's what we should all do,hum ,

Very interesting share thank you Andyb

[gravityman52]

George, I can assure you that the feeling is mutual and that O has a true gift and dedication to the enlightenment of us all. Just like MT 17 and 18 the whip action can use the centrifugal force and the flywheel momentum into the transfer of energy by using things that occur naturally and that are beneficial.

[ME]

Personally I believe the discoveries are among the most important discoveries made in modern times.
Because how we view teaching, bias, profession/pride, The Semmelweis-effect, handling knowledge, new information, research, art, poetry, religion and nature will all have to change or be affected to some degree.. This is my opinion :-) And as I wrote, that is why I had to test it to see if other believe the same to be true..

.
-- "How can we make the other see it in the same way" - https://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/view ... 019#169019

For the shared things in the natural world we have this scientific methodology at our disposal: To check, test, verify and encourage peer review... b'cause we might even accidentally have manipulated ourselves with seemingly correct, but false knowledge.

A demonstration on 'false knowledge' is this now en-passant mentioned leverage effect to gain overbalance.
For that I tried in several ways (in another topic [link]) to show how to simply check yourself (b'cause: why should you believe me!) that for an overbalanced path (alternating between an inner and outer radius) one needs to raise things upwards.
Such conclusion simply flows from Geometry for those who dare to draw such overbalanced path on paper.

Anywho, I'm personally not convinced that the Geometry that Bessler used or his stay at the Cassel castle automatically validates an RC label.
Also, I thought Bessler was a christian who was busy with reuniting different movements (Lutheranism, Baptism, Catholicism, Reformed Christology, +more?) with his Orffyrean church.

Why do you want him to be one, is this an RC advertisement?
He sure could be. It's just not relevant.

I think the fact he sold his soul to the Devil is very relevant.

The obvious questions:
1. How is that a fact;
2. What does that even mean;
3. How is that (or what makes it) relevant.

Don't you believe in the devil ME?
I'm sure your Italian ancestors did.

Frank, you assume a lot. While my believe could be the same or deviate a lot from yours, it should not have any influence on your stated fact.
And therefore, also to not mix my opinion with your facts (or opinion), I once again I ask for your own interpretation and elaboration.

[eccentrically1]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

[Senax]

Personally I believe the discoveries are among the most important discoveries made in modern times.
Because how we view teaching, bias, profession/pride, The Semmelweis-effect, handling knowledge, new information, research, art, poetry, religion and nature will all have to change or be affected to some degree.. This is my opinion :-) And as I wrote, that is why I had to test it to see if other believe the same to be true..

.
-- "How can we make the other see it in the same way" - https://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/view ... 019#169019

For the shared things in the natural world we have this scientific methodology at our disposal: To check, test, verify and encourage peer review... b'cause we might even accidentally have manipulated ourselves with seemingly correct, but false knowledge.

A demonstration on 'false knowledge' is this now en-passant mentioned leverage effect to gain overbalance.
For that I tried in several ways (in another topic [link]) to show how to simply check yourself (b'cause: why should you believe me!) that for an overbalanced path (alternating between an inner and outer radius) one needs to raise things upwards.
Such conclusion simply flows from Geometry for those who dare to draw such overbalanced path on paper.

Anywho, I'm personally not convinced that the Geometry that Bessler used or his stay at the Cassel castle automatically validates an RC label.
Also, I thought Bessler was a christian who was busy with reuniting different movements (Lutheranism, Baptism, Catholicism, Reformed Christology, +more?) with his Orffyrean church.

I think the fact he sold his soul to the Devil is very relevant.

The obvious questions:
1. How is that a fact;
2. What does that even mean;
3. How is that (or what makes it) relevant.

Don't you believe in the devil ME?
I'm sure your Italian ancestors did.

Frank, you assume a lot. While my believe could be the same or deviate a lot from yours, it should not have any influence on your stated fact.
And therefore, also to not mix my opinion with your facts (or opinion), I once again I ask for your own interpretation and elaboration.[/quote
If I see a man knocked down by a motor car, that is a fact.

For you it is not a fact because you haven't seen it.

I have "seen" that Bessler sold his soul to the devil. I have seen it like
I saw the solution to the water and wine puzzle.

I didn't have to work it out. I just saw it when I read JC's book

You should read:
Blink: The Power of Thinking Without Thinking by Malcolm Gladwell

My fact was confirmed when Bessler came from hell to address the forum.