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I've been experimenting with my Ferris wheel shown earlier and can see how
mooie are harnessing the 3rd derivative energy.

Below is a diagram of the position of a 360° pendulum at 1 second intervals
as it falls to 6 o'clock and rises to 12 o'clock.

In the blue zone it is accelerating, in the red zone it is decelerating.



If the wheel is turned at a slower speed than the orbital speed of a
360° pendulum then in the third quadrant, around 7 to 8 o'clock, a weight
will fall back from the leading cross bar to the trailing cross bar under
Newtonian Gravity.

This energy can be harvested by a spring or other device and locked in to
that device. It can then be carried round to the 1 to 2 o'clock region and
released thus adding to the Newtonian Gravity in that quadrant.

By using a spring one is taking the energy outside the system and storing
it as strain energy. No significant energy is lost from the spring by raising
it from 7 o'clock to 1 o'clock therefore gravitational potential energy is
gained by the system

If the variables are chosen optimally we have free energy.
How far have I got to this end?
Good question.

Well, I've used some elastic bands and confirmed that with the wheel turning
at the right speed the weights do fall back in the manner described. The
bands are stretched but start to lose this stretch in the fourth quadrant which
is not good enough. Clearly I need to lock the energy in by having some kind
of catch to keep the weight in contact with the trailing cross bar before
triggering the catch in the first quadrant.

So far this task has defeated me.

However, I'm sure many of you are better experimenters than I and so
you might like to tackle it yourselves. It would be nice if the forum could
beat mooie to publication.

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Having looked back through the mooie threads and seen the various patents
with radical changes in design it is understandable if people feel the whole
thing is an investment scam. The fact that Italians are involved doesn't help.

However, for me the latest one makes sense which the previous ones never
did since I couldn't see how they might work.

https://www.mooie-energie-italia.it/it/sistema/

This one leads to a decent enough analogy to the Carnot cycle with strain in
a spring (in essence EG) analogous to pressure and NG analogous to
temperature. Thus the sections over which gravity potential is transferred
to the spring and the section over which gravity potential is released from
the spring are analogous to the adiabatic legs of the Carnot.

Also, this cycle analogy has led me to eschew my previous assertion that
the energy cannot come from NG.

Now it is true the energy is a result of the interaction NE of N and E, neither
on their own being sufficient. But just as we attribute the energy obtained
from the Carnot due to temperature rather than pressure since temperature
represents the deeper scale of motion, so also we should attribute the energy
obtained from the mooie to Newtonian Gravity rather than Ersatz Gravity
since, here, NG represents the deeper scale of motion.

We can see this from the fact that the energy transmission speed for NG
(and its penetration) is immeasurably greater than the transmission speed for
EG (the speed of light). If it weren't then celestial mechanics wouldn't work.

Funnily enough the fact that we instinctively accept the mooie will work
underground shows that we recognise NG penetrates materials to a deeper
level than EG.

So you can see that establishment physics's immediate reaction to a
working mooie is that it has to be a fraud.

They are going to be very uncomfortable when they find it isn't.

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That's interesting. My website has recently been visited nine times from
the Netherlands.

Never had one before so it's almost certainly Sjack. He must have gotten
the link from this forum since on the mooie contact forms I only pasted
links to this forum.



Mmm......

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It's interesting to compare this picture from the mooie cache with the
Italian Job picture. The first thing that struck me was the number of sector
slots seems to be the same, i.e. 12 x 30°.

The rectangular teeth look pretty solid so one can imagine them catching
the axle of a heavy weight as it falls.



I imagine the 3,500 kilos refers to the sum of the weights which is a
ton less than the Italian Job.

So this is a domestic scale generator.

It will be interesting to see if Sjack complains about abuse of copyright.
That will tell us if he's reading this forum. 😎

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A Murilo Solution

Since using a spring is common to Bessler, Abeling and bailywick1 I wonder
if it would also be an answer for the Murilo engine.

If weights are allowed to fall under Newtonian Gravity (NG) then for every
second that passes they fall a greater distance. It is always the last second
that kills you because that has the greatest energy.

Now supposing you connect the weights by springs so that they only fall at
0.9 NG, the rest of the energy is in the springs.

Lock the energy at the bottom just before the turn.
On average the space between weights going down will be smaller than the
space between weights going up.

Therefore there will be more weights going down than there will be going up.

Therefore the total NG force going down force will be greater than the total
going up. In effect you are raising strain energy mass equivalent up the
gravity potential gradient without incurring significant cost.

Now I'm only too well aware that it is easy to make a mistake in this kind of
argument.

However, the reason I think it might work is that going down we have
2nd derivative acceleration energy and going up we have 1st derivative
translation energy.

It is interesting to note that Abeling claimed he was using quadratic energy,
2nd derivative energy in other words. Perhaps he is pulling the weights
towards the centre near the zenith and letting them fall away from the centre
near the nadir. This would be using 2nd derivative energy of acceleration
towards the centre.

It would be ironic if deep mine shafts were used for such an engine.

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You can do x².

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DRAFT

It is now 4 years since the start of the mooie "Revolution".
One wonders how long we will have to wait for a resolution.
Are we facing another RAR which looks as though it will never be resolved?
Their site can no longer be reached so we my never hear the end of that story.
Perhaps when the billionaire dies someone will provide us with an exposé.

However, there are aspects of mooie which gives me hope of a good outcome.
One is the appearance of the Italian mooie but more importantly the fact that
there is a rational argument NG can be harnessed by use of a spring to carry
NG energy up the NG gradient without significant loss since the weight of the
spring is negligible compared to the energy it contains.

This has been discussed at length on this forum. Even the use of a pneumatic
spring as outlined by mooie has been suggested in a sketch by Edwin.

Also it has been shown that a multiple 360° free fall pendulum device has a
gravitational potential greater than the same pendulum rotating at a constant r.p.m.

The reason I'm revisiting this subject is that I have realised that a full circle
pendulum can be kept in constant motion by the input of purely horizontal
translational kinetic energy with no vertical component. This resolves the
tricky problem of how to apply the spring energy, a problem which bailywick1
managed to overcome with his Dominant Flywheel device.

More later.

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It's later.

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