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Tony,
If you are happy with not understanding what i mean then i am happy with that too.
It is very difficult to understand exactly what others are saying because we do not give every word the exact same signification. Often there is a missing detail that we feel is so blatently obvious that it is not worth mentioning. It is as though we don't want to insult their intelligence by explaining to them as if they were stupid. This is only our imagination. We need to explain in a way that there is no doubt that they are reading our version of the explaination and not their version, this is no easy task.
If you line the notches/grooves/slots up so that n° 1 of both wheels is able to transfer a weight at 1 o'clock and tranfer weight from inner wheel to outer wheel. Then with the 6/7 ratio rotate the wheels 180° (7 o'clock). The n° 1 of outer wheel will be lined up with n°2 of inner wheel the weight can be transfered back to inner wheel.
With the 3 weights a space 3 weights a space 3 w a space 3 w a space, you will be forever moving each space backward with every turn of the wheel. You will not be moving every weight with every turn of the wheel.
By moving one weight forward you are moving the space backward and if you were to move one weight backward you would be moving the space forward.
The fact there are eight slots on outer wheel would mean that there would be a slot lined up for the following rotation to take another weight forward at each phase of rotation.
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First of all, I am not English, so for me it is more difficult to translate.
In order for the wheel to have a chance to operate it must have all 12 weights set. Thinking with the 3 weights use it to solve technical problems.
Permanently the wheel has 8 weights that descend and 4 weights that climb, because of this I think 360 degrees, and the wheels must have two speeds exactly.
the inner wheel descends and has the lowest speed.
Everything is very logical
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I think the center wheel should have more weights than the outside ring wheel. The amount of frictional losses due to the ring wheel being geared over twice as fast as the center wheel would eat up most of any energy gain.
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You can work with 1/3 more weights on the center wheel, but then you have to increase the speed of the outer wheels with 3x the speed of the inner wheels in order to take over the weights. But I think the optimum is 2 speeds.
For starters, the most important thing is the control of the force arm (making the smallest notches), in this way the force increases to the lowering wheel and decreases to the rising wheel (like the original wheel). counts every millimeter
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Ralph wrote:I hate to say it, but a lot of what you read about it running, and having missing parts was conceived and or imagined by Doc who was at the point of making up stories to keep those researching interested and pushing forward.
Well, that's a little depressing. If you can't trust a PM researcher, who can you trust :>
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I wonder if it is coincidence that its colors are the same as New Holland farm machinery from the turn of the century.
What goes around, comes around.
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