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After reading the current posts and literature. I can appreciate the overall truths that the parties have put forward.

Naturally when one is putting forward their long held believes the words typed just do not
have the emotional power of their convictions.

Therefore naturally a drive to trigger the emotional state in another via negative term/s is a driver to the typed form of a reply.

However you are all human and how people deal with the world we live on are the same.

I would feel the world would be a poor and boring place if we were not trying to find our way forward via different paths.

There is no right or wrong way, just the best we can manage were we are and using what we have available.

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I like your post Agor95. The world isn't black and white but millions of shades of grey.
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ovyyus:
daxwc wrote:
Competing private new[s] is the only way to get the message out to the masses.

Who's message?
Ha Ha, love it. It was in the context of the conversation that being the public health message.

Keep it up ovyyus and you could land a job as a journalist covering Trump’s press conference. Your written articles might need to get a wee bit longer though. 8P

I can see the headline already:
Daxwc wishes to propagate propaganda through private news companies as Hitler once suggested!
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daxwc wrote:Ha Ha, love it. It was in the context of the conversation that being the public health message.
I didn't ask 'whose' message.
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Not sure if I am getting a grammar lesson or maybe you sarcastically mean W.H.O.’s?
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I think we are in a 'millions of shades of grey' territory.

I recommend if we need an understanding of some news channel output we should ask a person from that country.

All news is biased and we are biased when we read. That caused the same sentence being interpreted differently dependent on the readers believes .

However I feel we have a lot in common. We are looking confused with the current posts on the media message.

This point comes down to the regrettable state that the media is not a factual investigative journalism source.

If we want that we have to D.I.Y the news by watching it and ignoring the distorted relayed repeats we see these days.

So many time we see news reporters interviewing each other?

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The media and politics are both making it very difficult to understand what the hell is actually going on.
A fine example.
A french professor, who is a specialist in his field, finds that a medication for another disease is very effective for treating covid 19. For it to be effective it is given with zinc and early on in the developpement of the disease.
Donald Trump gets all excited about this is and suggests that giving them out like smarties is the miracle he has been hoping for.
The medical world tells us that it is not a good idea to do this, "we need to do some checks first".
So, to check that a medication given early to patients with zinc in a clinical setting is ok to be dished out like smarties, a test is performed by giving it late to patients without zinc. The findings of the study are, don't do what Donald Trump suggested because it is nonsense.
Most people are way more interested, when it comes to the medical aspect, to learn if what the professor is saying is true and they don't give two hoots about what Donald Trump is saying . Politicians and the media most definitely have a different opinion as to what is important and what is not.
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I understand there is difficulty in getting to the facts.

There are dynamic drivers that distort the informational messages created based
on the facts.

Using your posts I get this.

1. A medication for another disease in more effective when taken with a zinc supplement.
The professor knows it is not licensed to be used in this way.
If people start using this treatment on this fact and they get zinc poisoning then the
lawyers will be after him for every penny they can get.

2. The president of the united states of America is asking a question of his advisers.
That question is what he thinks most of the electorate would ask.

The medical advisers should educate the viewers why it is not a good idea too use the
treatment without toxic limit testing.

3. The media need news items too fill up broadcast time. The quality or public health
concerns are less important than ratings and advertising.
Money makes the world go round.

What I find disappointing is people who pay a set fee for quality broadcasting, were
ratings and advertising are not present, get this low quality distorted media output as
fact.

They should be cleaning it up and explaining a more factual and rounded explanation.

P.S. Anyone want to setup a 'No to B.S.' news channel ?
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P.S. Anyone want to setup a 'No to B.S.' news channel ?
I haven't got enough time for that mate.
I'm way too busy breeding leeches and trying to get a stupid wheel to go round.
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You are quite right - back to the grind wheel.

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Status update from Norway:

- My wife (works as a police) tested negative to Covid-19.
- Both my kids are back in School and Kindergarten.
- Stocks and Bitcoin go up.
- Norway has started ramping up the testing from May 1st;
- 100.000 tests a week and going for;
- 300.000 tests a week by the end of May. (5% of the population each week).
- Holiday in Germany cancelled..

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What happens if you refuse to get tested?
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Who? I?

Nothing. We would have to call the doctor first, or we could simply quarantine until symptom free.

All people that feel a little in the nose or throat, is encouraged to call the doctor and get a test, either driving home to you or at a drive-in.

You are free to not make that call. But you are not showing up at work or delivering kids to kindergarten with a running nose or a cough. Then you self quarantine. But if you want to get sooner back to work, you can do a test...

This is done so the country can open as much as possible without a vaccine or herd immunity..

Alongside that, a part of the population will get antibody-tested, so that we hava national number for how many has totally been through it.

The first antibody test showed around 1% of the population had antibodies. This number equals about 50.000 people, where around 200+ are dead from Covid-19. (Around 0,4% + dead.)

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This is exactly why thy war on the mainstream media exists.
The blind irony is that a remark like this is so far-right that the solution becomes exactly the triggered communism it thinks it is fighting.
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The blind irony is that a remark like this is so far-right that the solution becomes exactly the triggered communism it thinks it is fighting.
How can you consider a fight for the truth to be so far-right as to make the solution triggered communism? How can communism ever be considered a solution when it's murdered over 100 million people during the last century?
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