Crazy as can be wheel concept
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I am deeply indebted to Zhy for his contribution on this thread.
If it wasn't for him, I would not have found the connectedness of all the parts of my current Pendulum Wheel that has NOW given me my miracle wheel concept.
I had found all the ingredients of the wheel. EXCEPT in a haste to present my cake, not checking the ingredients were in the right proportions.
HALF of the ingredients were missed. Therefore the cake lost its taste.
MY pendulum wheel should, by right , the design was meant to have eight pendulums, eight weights at 45 degrees intervals on rim of large wheel1.
Raj
If it wasn't for him, I would not have found the connectedness of all the parts of my current Pendulum Wheel that has NOW given me my miracle wheel concept.
I had found all the ingredients of the wheel. EXCEPT in a haste to present my cake, not checking the ingredients were in the right proportions.
HALF of the ingredients were missed. Therefore the cake lost its taste.
MY pendulum wheel should, by right , the design was meant to have eight pendulums, eight weights at 45 degrees intervals on rim of large wheel1.
Raj
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re: Crazy as can be wheel concept
I am deeply indebted to Zhy for his contribution on this thread.
If it wasn't for him, I would not have found the connectedness of all the parts of my current Pendulum Wheel that has NOW given me my miracle wheel concept.
I had found all the ingredients of the wheel. EXCEPT in a haste to present my cake, not checking the ingredients were in the right proportions.
HALF of the ingredients were missed. Therefore the cake lost its taste.
MY pendulum wheel should, by right , the design was meant to have eight pendulums, eight weights at 45 degrees intervals on rim of large wheel1.
We can easily calculate torques in my Pendulum Wheel concept, working out the torque by each weights in each of the drawings above exactly as shown by Zhy ,
There is going to have unidirectional net torque on the descending clockwise side, throughout with resetting of weights positions every 45 degrees rotation.
I am, now, putting my name for the Bessler Wheel prize.
My Pendulum Wheel concept is assured to be a runner.
Raj
If it wasn't for him, I would not have found the connectedness of all the parts of my current Pendulum Wheel that has NOW given me my miracle wheel concept.
I had found all the ingredients of the wheel. EXCEPT in a haste to present my cake, not checking the ingredients were in the right proportions.
HALF of the ingredients were missed. Therefore the cake lost its taste.
MY pendulum wheel should, by right , the design was meant to have eight pendulums, eight weights at 45 degrees intervals on rim of large wheel1.
We can easily calculate torques in my Pendulum Wheel concept, working out the torque by each weights in each of the drawings above exactly as shown by Zhy ,
There is going to have unidirectional net torque on the descending clockwise side, throughout with resetting of weights positions every 45 degrees rotation.
I am, now, putting my name for the Bessler Wheel prize.
My Pendulum Wheel concept is assured to be a runner.
Raj
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Raj, don't open the champagne yet my friend. Every weight that you lift at the bottom of the wheel causes back torque! There will always be more weight on the ascending side, although closer to the axle. Sorry, non runner. I have built something similar years ago.
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On my build Raj, I utilized a split axle that was fixed in place with the wheel spinning on it's own bearings. I had a short arm attached to the fixed axle to which the small wheel was attached, located at about 4 or 5 o'clock. Pretty much the same principle. The back torque from lifting the lower weights was the killer!
. I can assure the reader that there is something special behind the stork's bills.
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Justsomeone, please don't worry so much!
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Raj
Before you patent, make sure it works by building it.
I agree with Justsomeone. It won't perpetuate. Lifting doesn't magically happen.
Before you patent, make sure it works by building it.
I agree with Justsomeone. It won't perpetuate. Lifting doesn't magically happen.
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Wagners?..
Please, please stop worrying too much.
Thank you both for your concern.
Just remember that patenting is the way to claim priority to a concept.
Whether the concept works or not it gets recorded for history.
Frankly, I expect NONE of you on this forum to say my concept will work.
Raj
Please, please stop worrying too much.
Thank you both for your concern.
Just remember that patenting is the way to claim priority to a concept.
Whether the concept works or not it gets recorded for history.
Frankly, I expect NONE of you on this forum to say my concept will work.
Raj
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This is how I am proceeding with my Pendulums Wheel concept:
1. My patent application will be completed officially as a desktop toy wheel, a bit like Newton Cradle, desktop toy, playing down as self-rotating wheel and much less as PMM wheel, but still showing the mechanical components as in my current drawings.
2. Once the toy patent details, I.e descriptions is published, it would be evident to those with mechanical and engineering minds to easily relate the motion of my toy wheel, as being powered by gravity, if the toy wheel self-rotate . Hence it can be acclaimed as a gravity driven wheel, intently breaking Newton law. Of course this is a long shot dream.
3. I can end up with a toy wheel patent. This I am sure of.
Now, I have another pastime, promoting my TOY WHEEL.
Raj
1. My patent application will be completed officially as a desktop toy wheel, a bit like Newton Cradle, desktop toy, playing down as self-rotating wheel and much less as PMM wheel, but still showing the mechanical components as in my current drawings.
2. Once the toy patent details, I.e descriptions is published, it would be evident to those with mechanical and engineering minds to easily relate the motion of my toy wheel, as being powered by gravity, if the toy wheel self-rotate . Hence it can be acclaimed as a gravity driven wheel, intently breaking Newton law. Of course this is a long shot dream.
3. I can end up with a toy wheel patent. This I am sure of.
Now, I have another pastime, promoting my TOY WHEEL.
Raj
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re: Crazy as can be wheel concept
Raj,
You cannot patent something that you have shared on a public forum.
You cannot patent something that you have shared on a public forum.
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Look closely at the first drawing with the name of “Pendulum Wheel� posted on 210420 ( 21/04/2020).
You will see numbers 1 to 9 on the drawing. If you know anything about patents application, you should know why these numbers are there.
If you look at every new concepts drawings that I have posted on this forum, every drawing have numbers next to different parts on the drawing.
These numbers are the only way to refer to different parts of the concept in your description document for your patent application.
NOW you got it,
Suffice it to say all new concepts that I post on here are already patent pending prior to posting for public viewing.
Raj
You will see numbers 1 to 9 on the drawing. If you know anything about patents application, you should know why these numbers are there.
If you look at every new concepts drawings that I have posted on this forum, every drawing have numbers next to different parts on the drawing.
These numbers are the only way to refer to different parts of the concept in your description document for your patent application.
NOW you got it,
Suffice it to say all new concepts that I post on here are already patent pending prior to posting for public viewing.
Raj
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With the number of patents out there for non runners, when a runner does finally turn up, every single aspect of it will probably be covered.
There will be hundreds of claims from people that they had found this and that bit of it, and it is all because of this that it was discovered.
Between the scientific community, trying to worm their way out of being so blatently wrong, and the non runner patent holders claiming fame and fortune, i haven't got a clue who is going to be talking the most nonsense. I'm sure it will be all very comical.
There will be hundreds of claims from people that they had found this and that bit of it, and it is all because of this that it was discovered.
Between the scientific community, trying to worm their way out of being so blatently wrong, and the non runner patent holders claiming fame and fortune, i haven't got a clue who is going to be talking the most nonsense. I'm sure it will be all very comical.
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I am touched.
You seem to be quite versed in patenting procedures.
Just for your information, I am not that stupid as you may be think.
I am 75 years old, a uk graduate in the late 1970s, in Maths and computer science, with work experience in the city of London at Barclays Bank in forex dept, at Cadbury Schweppes in account dept , at British aircraft corporation in shipping department at the time when Concorde was being built.
I can also claim to know something about patenting proceedures abd requirents.
I am already an IP owner and patents owner for my wave energy converter
Out of hundreds of claims one makes in his patent application, he NEEDS just one claim as being NOVEL, he gets his patent, ONLY for the novelty part of this patent application one claim.
The last before I complete this post.
Stop, stop, stop worrying whether i’ll Get the patent. It’s none of anybody’s businessYou .
Monsieur Robin des Bois, ne vous tracassez pas pour moi! Merci
My best regards to you.
Raj
You seem to be quite versed in patenting procedures.
Just for your information, I am not that stupid as you may be think.
I am 75 years old, a uk graduate in the late 1970s, in Maths and computer science, with work experience in the city of London at Barclays Bank in forex dept, at Cadbury Schweppes in account dept , at British aircraft corporation in shipping department at the time when Concorde was being built.
I can also claim to know something about patenting proceedures abd requirents.
I am already an IP owner and patents owner for my wave energy converter
Out of hundreds of claims one makes in his patent application, he NEEDS just one claim as being NOVEL, he gets his patent, ONLY for the novelty part of this patent application one claim.
The last before I complete this post.
Stop, stop, stop worrying whether i’ll Get the patent. It’s none of anybody’s businessYou .
Monsieur Robin des Bois, ne vous tracassez pas pour moi! Merci
My best regards to you.
Raj
Keep learning till the end.
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I am continuing to seek a wheel concept where torque calculation can be done by just basic methods.
Raj
Raj
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