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A hair is composed of dead cells.
The only thing alive about a hair is the root.
This is where it grows from.

Hair grows to a certain length and then stops. You can observe this by your hair on your arms and chest. I didn't include the head because that takes too long, but of course this applies to all hair growth.

When you cut hair it starts to grow again. It generally grows in thicker, but to about the same length it was before.

QUESTION: If hair is dead how does it know when to start growing and when to stop?

Possible answer, maybe hair are in fact like antenna and transmitt vibration-wavelength to the folicle and skin. Vibration wave lenght of a short hair could tell the root it needs to grow longer, fitting in with what dna has programmed.

Perhaps these possible antenna also pick up information wave forms and this data is realized as intuition.
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I've often wondered about that too Mike.

I think it has something to do with the fact that hair on different parts of your body have a pre programmed max length determined by follicle longevity. Lets says 36 inches for head hair & 1/4 inch for arm or leg hair.

When you cut your head hair it continues to grow but you are losing hair follicles all the time so the one's that are cut reach their pre-determined age & fall out to be replaced by new hairs that start to grow. So it is an illusion in effect because of constant replacement & long follicle life.

The same applies for the shorter hairs on your arms etc but their longevity is far shorter & their replacement/replenishment rate faster.

Mike, I can't unfortunately explain the rapid onset of hair growth on your back or from your ears after aged 35 but shaving or plucking may help followed by hormone therapy :)
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It's the sudden growth around full moon that bothers me...
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Your theory about hair acting as antennas & aiding intuition may in fact have merit but it seems it could also be counter productive. In an old series of "My Favourite Martian" some of his hair certainly looked like antenna's but I noticed he was also balding. Perhaps the vibrations shook them lose.
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>I've often wondered about that too Mike.

I think it has something to do with the fact that hair on different parts of your body have a pre programmed max length determined by follicle longevity. Lets says 36 inches for head hair & 1/4 inch for arm or leg hair.


I agree that it's probably pre programmed. I guess you would have to iscolate individual hairs and cut them and seeif they grow back to their original length before falling out. I think they will and this is the strange part. I don't think every hair that's cuts falls out before it's finished growing, creating just an illusion.
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Trev wrote:
It's the sudden growth around full moon that bothers me...
Yes, this can be a real problem for the werewolves out there! :D


Michael wrote:
...maybe hair are in fact like antenna and transmitt vibration-wavelength to the folicle and skin.
I might agree with this hypothesis IF hair was electrically conductive, but it is made of protein with some oil in it and, as such, should be electrically non-conductive. Thus, it can not pick up any form of radio or microwave frequency electromagnetic radiation and transmit it to its follicles.


However, I am reminded of the story of Samson in the Old Testament. He was a member of the tribe of Dan with incredible physical strength which he believed was due to this long locks of dark curly hair. All of his problems seem to start when he was seduced by Delilah who, while he snoozed, gave him a quick haircut. Upon awakening and realizing he was almost bald, he finds himself weak and unable to avoid capture by the Philistines who were the enemies of the Danites.

Perhaps his long strands of hair acted like antennae to pick up signals from God that maintained his vitality and strength? Or, perhaps, the Bible story is only a metaphor for something else that happened. Perhaps, in reality, Samson got involved with Delilah and was so enamoured with her legendary beauty that he forgot to get adequate daily nutrition. As a result, after months of this neglect, he began to suffer from various vitamin and mineral deficiencies that made his hair fall out and greatly weakened him. And, in this condition be was easily subdued by the enemy.

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Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
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It seems Sampson's strength was hair today, gone tomorrow.
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There are more things under heaven and earth than your wildest imagination, or electricity. I'm not championing orgone energy but who knows. Don't forget there is the hidden fluid aspect to reality. That which is called by another name the substratuum.
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Hairs are not ''so dead'' as you said.
Many, many stories about people that get, under stress, almost instant white hairs... I mean, for already long hairs.
The folicules make hairs grow even in dead people, for relatively long time, and same happens to nails.
BTW, hairs at the ears are the only male stuff women may never get.
To all other characteristics they may ''copy''.
I'm proud of my ears hairs!!! :] regs. M.
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Michael...

I agree with you to a certain extent. Someone stated the matter nicely when they said, "Absence of evidence is not equal to evidence of absence". Surely there are many unknown phenomena lurking around in this infinite cosmos of ours. Only occasionally do they present themselves to a lucky few.

Unfortunately, while one may "feel" that something must be true or one has interpreted certain claimed events or "clues" as indicating the probable reality of some phenomena, that phenomena does not become "officicially" accepted as real until and unless it can be readily recorded and studied.

I believe that in the future such things as extraterrestrial life, UFOs, paranormal phenomena, free energy devices, etc. will be accepted to be as true and real as the existence of the Earth we stand on. But, for the moment these phenomena are on the edge of the world we consider as "real". But, it's good to keep dreaming and wondering and seeking the truth...it can lead to great things on Earth.

ken

P.S. I saw another Einstein quote somewhere. It was "Science advances one funeral at a time". Obviously, Einstein realized that many of his contemporaries in the field of physics were the biggest obstacles to its advancement!
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On 7/6/06, I found, in any overbalanced gravity wheel with rotation rate, ω, axle to CG distance d, and CG dip angle φ, the average vertical velocity of its drive weights is downward and given by:

Vaver = -2(√2)πdωcosφ
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I think Max Planck, the father of quantum theory said, "science advances one funeral at a time", or something to that effect.
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I think Bill's right.
Murilo, I think hair and nails continue to grow because their length is measured relative to the flesh they grow from, but after death the flesh recedes (especially if you have a dead body lying around, it can dehydrate and shrivel).
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Bill...

Come to think of it, you might be right...it was probably Max Planck

Murilo...

I, too, have heard that nails and hair can grow for awhile after death. I would assume, however, that if the shriveling of the cadaver was responsible for this and that it was only an illusion, then the amount of "growth" would not be much. Has anybody ever made an measurements of how much "growth" is supposed to take place in these tissues?


I remember an interesting story I saw in the new a couple of decades ago. It involved the mummy of an Eqyptian princess. Supposedly, some researchers at a museum had unwrapped the mummy and taken a sample of lady's skin. Well, apparently, when they studied it under the microscope, they discovered that the skin cells were still growing after thousands of years! All I can imagine is that the extreme state of dehydration induced in tissues to produce a mummy must have somehow slowed down the metabolism of its cells to the point where they actually went into a state of suspended animation and only needed a little water put on them to reactivate them.

If anybody is interested, I have an article on my website titled "The Preservation and Resurrection of the Dead" that may alter one's opinion about the finality of death...

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Jon & ken,
I do understand the ilusion of growth, since the body will losing liquids, but is this case, I saw on TV to the information of a good physician... hairs and nails may grow for a time.
Hairs may be a kind of trouble. In my personal case, I'm plenty of hairs but I have to deal to a logistic question. This distribuition makes me bald. regs. M.
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You could think of it like growing things in the ground Murilo. You might have some land where mostly everything is dead but there are still some nutrients left in the soil for some growth. Even though the heart has stopped beating doesn't mean cells can't still grow from whats still there in their specific region.

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