Donald Trump 2016?

[Oystein]

A little while ago you had mentioned that your family was having a little bit of health
problems. Here's hoping that you all are doing much better. Also, I thought you only
had one son.

I was the one with health problems, while my oldest son got diagnosed with ADHD and Tourettes syndrome. After 5 years with inflammation and related problems and lastly back problems and Lyme disease we are doing fine. Luckily I live in a "socialistic" country so we are all doing just fine.

Personally I think that Sanders was the best candidate for US, and I think Trump have said more things that is wrong (willingly, by dementia or simply from poor understanding?) than Biden does. Actually i know how it is to get a brain blanked without a dementia.

Reading comments I think it is sad to observe that "free" healthcare, dentist and schooling for all" is compared to both Venezuela and even communism.. Worthless phrases, repeating others when trying to say how bad it is to pay for someone else's un-luck. (Greed is indeed an evil root).

But it seems to me that a society where as many people as possible are doing ok is the best. The more they shop, keep companies and workers busy, buy cars, buy fuel, get back to healthy lifestyles and keep their families healthy and getting back to work without failing life, the better. More failed lives makes up a failing society.

insurance agents and large companies making money on health is not a good thing. Spending money on commercials for politics is not good. etc. etc. That is why Sanders wanted US to a little more like the countries that score highest on the average well being of their citizens. A little more taxes, a secure society for your family and the opportunity to choose education and work, and finally retirement is factors the is ranging highest in a society.

We are now a happy family again with healthy bright kids and a secure future for all of us. We are free to do just what we like, and I have finished several discoveries in Bessler's work. I have finished the work on Bessler's work on squaring the circle, and how that connects to Rosicrucianism, Masonry and Religion, And how it also make up the parts of his secret mechanism.

I will maybe start a post about Bessler and the proofs of how he and others was Squaring the circle, and what that meant.

I am positive that we will see a working wheel in this "lifetime".

Good luck with the voting for US citizens, Don't let Covid and the armed Trump supportens scare you from voting..

All the above is IMO

Best
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[agor95]

You might be able too access this map.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-54783016

Good Luck with the vote.

[agor95]

I found this comment on the BBC web site.

"But the Michigan Department of State said delays and audits were not permitted by law."

Maybe I am missing something like why a law exist to prevent an audit.

I assume this audit is embedded within the process and can be reviewed and a second audit is not required. That being the evidential review material is at a high standard and complete.

Over to our members is the USA.

Just letting you know

[racer270]

it's a fraud , no way in hell did Biden win..!

voting machines were rigged to flip votes.
Trump won by a land slide...!!!

[ME]

Conjecture.
You need to proof it!

Should be simple: The election is over, now confiscate those machines!
Let them be scrutinized by different parties and combined parties.

Next time, use a colored pencil. If you want, let it be read by a machine.

[MrTim]

I figure Trump has a 5% chance to pull out a win, but the courts are going to be "Yes, there was cheating, but so what? Nothing we can do about it." And that will be that...

[daxwc]

Trump has no chance of pulling out a win. Everybody knew 4 years ago it was coming. Taken down by the Deep State for the broader good. The problem is next time it might not be for good. In the meantime they are like cats covering shit while the media is happily compliant and ogles over Biden’s cat. All the same people that said Trump’s campaign wasn’t spied on now say there was no voter fraud. There are some very serious statistical “anomalies� that really need to be explained that the media doesn’t want to address. Hard to make heads or tails of what is going on due to the Deep State and the media.

An easier way to convince yourself is search in Google “Dominion voter fraud� and look at the results. Then put the same search “Dominion voter fraud� into DuckDuckGo browser. The only thing I am certain of is Nineteen Eighty-Four has arrived

[daxwc]

ME:

Conjecture.
You need to proof it!

You got it backwards you have to prove you got the most votes legitimately to win.

[ME]

Me? That would be foreign interference!

Who's duty is it to count those votes?
Certainly not anyone who is on that ballot.
There's a whole election system 'you' agreed on before voting. It can't be fix afterwards.

When in 2016 the election was found to be fraudulent, then there were four years to ensure a more secure voting system. I heard the 2020 election was the most secure ever, before that guy got fired for just claiming such unliked statement.

As far as I follow this final trainwreck situation is that the court is still waiting for actual evidence on that 'massive scale'.
There is a loud and clear message, without the need of any misinterpretation and filter from any media outlet, that there's a tsunami of evidence.
Yet in court... "no Your Honer, there is no fraud only some circumstantial mismanagement here and there".

What I don't understand is why they refuse to present that 'tsunami of evidence', as is claimed, to the Court, while screaming blue murder when outside.
When they don't present anything in Court then there's nothing to decide, and nothing the Court "has to be" or could be. This is barely an opinion.

As with perpetual motion most of us seem to agree: Those who claim certain things should be the ones who present the evidence, or start your publication and/or production in the real world otherwise.
Or, Hitchens's razor: What may be asserted without evidence, may be dismissed without evidence

Until that court presentation actually happens then we can conclude, just purely consequential from that discrepancy, that all assumptions of fraud are only just conjecture and that it's more likely that the 'evidence' is based on wrong conclusions if existing at all.
So it seems that the only attempt of fraud, that is clearly visible and loudly present, comes from the current minority.

So talk about proof:
For the sake of that whole country, and the rest of the World, present the evidence whatever it is and if-ever it is.
I'm sure there a lot of disappointment and lost hope.
Sorry for your loss. Whomever lost, or feels lost.

[racer270]

do you really think Biden got 80 million votes,
more then any person in history..?

[racer270]

https://www.facebook.com/davymuscle/vid ... 4444689331

[daxwc]

Main stream reporters are lazy and handcuffed. If there was criminal fraudulent it will come up in some of the litigation to come.

For example Wayne county Detroit Michigan an 80% black district. 203,311 ballots show no application for the absentee ballot was mailed to the voter this is 36% of the total. This is four times higher then the state average. Boy that city sure shows enthusiasm for Biden even over the red counties. Now that serious statistical “anomalies� suggests ballot harvesting is being done or wide spread absentee ballot fraud.

So the data suggests fraud but according to the mainstream media you just say there is no proof. The proof is the data itself but how do you prove it in court?


ME:

Should be simple: The election is over, now confiscate those machines!
Let them be scrutinized by different parties and combined parties.

Right simple.
https://ussanews.com/News1/2020/11/29/j ... -machines/

ME:

There's a whole election system 'you' agreed on before voting. It can't be fix afterwards.

I see you don’t understand the system. They all don’t get together and agree on anything.

America’s dirty little secret is elections have always been filled with fraud.

[eccentrically1]

The cases are being rejected because when they present their case in court they are claiming things like the poll watchers weren’t allowed to stand close enough and that mail in ballots were being fixed if they had errors. There are no state or federal laws that govern those things. So the cases have no merit.

The Hand recounts have all verified the Machine results, so dominion had nothing to do with any fraud.
95% of the ballots have paper copies. The 2016 election had around 84%. Again, the most secure election in history. The partial recount in Wisconsin (which Trump’s campaign paid for) actually added to Biden’s margin of victory. Oops!

[ovyyus]

I heard that every day Trump claims he won the election = $100m in unaccountable donations from his supporters, and that is why he'll never concede. Probably just another crazy conspiracy theory.

[daxwc]

EC1:

95% of the ballots have paper copies. The 2016 election had around 84%. Again, the most secure election in history.

The CIA is being misleading, of course they have paper ballots.

FromWiki - Most voters do not look at the machine-printed paper to ensure it reflects their choices. When there is a mistake, 93% of voters do not report it to poll workers.[9] No state requires central reporting of errors reported by voters, so the occasional report cannot lead to software correction.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electro ... e%20public.

An update of the voter machines was done in Georgia 12 days before the election and was not recertified if this is true. Why? The liberal media dismissed claims with “fact-checking� that only involves asking the company in question if the allegation was true.

CNN made this video three years ago. Suddenly it is unconceivable the voting machines can be hacked. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA2DWMH ... =emb_title

What needs to happen through committee investigation into the absentee ballots. That is did you order one, what was your vote, does it match and was the vote counted.

Why did all main stream media avoid the Pennsylvania hearing? Not news worthy? Only 70 million voters care I guess. Here is a interesting clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGGlnHe3Rgc