Donald Trump 2016?

[eccentrically1]

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/ ... s-debunked

[eccentrically1]

https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections ... holds.aspx

[daxwc]

EC1:

Journalist Shepard Smith has said that "Fox News knows of no evidence to support the president's claim. Lawmakers from both parties say using an informant to investigate is not spying. It's part of the normal investigative process."[73] Former judge and Fox News legal analyst Andrew Napolitano also stated that the use of an informant was part of standard procedure.

That is the very definition of spying but thanks for trying to make a mink coat out of a rats pelt.

spy
[spī]
NOUN
1. a person who secretly collects and reports information on the activities, movements, and plans of an enemy or competitor.
synonyms:
secret agent · undercover agent · enemy agent · foreign agent ·
[more]
VERB
1. work for a government or other organization by secretly collecting information about enemies or competitors


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... -limit-su/

FISA = “Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act� warrant to secretly collect communications which they applied for and got. The name alone tells you its spying, its under that word surveillance.

Now your going to tell me Trump got FISA warrant to be used against the Hlllary campaign because it is standard procedure?

[eccentrically1]

https://www.fbi.gov/about/faqs/what-is- ... informants

You say spy, the courts say informants.
If there was an fbi conspiracy to defeat don in 2016 using info about his campaign gathered by informants,why did fbi director Comey reopen the investigation into Clinton’s emails a few days before the election? I guess he thought it would help her?

[daxwc]

EC1:

If there was an fbi conspiracy to defeat don in 2016 using info about his campaign gathered by informants,why did fbi director Comey reopen the investigation into Clinton’s emails a few days before the election? I guess he thought it would help her?

What does that have to do with the main stream media willfully ignoring, denying and manipulating a story?

[ME]

do you really think Biden got 80 million votes,
more then any person in history..?

I don't have to think anything... It is what it is!
You all voted; 3000+ counties counted according to their own set rules; the States summed that up; then everyone can make a conclusion and project the winner.

So now you simply assume that Trump surely must have got more than 80 million votes. More then any person in history..?
Sounds like bad statistics based on wrong assumptions yet successful programming of the mind..

Not that it helps, but let me repeat Hitchens's razor: What may be asserted without evidence, may be dismissed without evidence

America’s dirty little secret is elections have always been filled with fraud.

Oh, ok... that clears things up.
So Trump didn't actually win in 2016.
Check.

Seems Dominion doesn’t want the machines analyzed.

I don't want to put it so bluntly, but don't you think that the implication of such statement actually makes the US incredibly stupid and naive?
The situation as sketched is that untested machines from Venezuela and Cuba, programmed by mr Chavez himself, were used and hoped for the best.
Lucky that a secret basement server was found somewhere in a Germany with another vote count total...
- Lock someone up ? - Lock someone up - ?
Under which regime did this all happen?
I'm convinced many people all around the World are able to write down a random number under the 300 million.... also valid?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_Voting_Systems

Or, as a crazy idea, don't use machines at all. But then you have to wait a while...
Also, test your systems Before, and not Afterwards.
So you now 'know' what's "wrong", or assume what might be wrong, with your election system.
Thus you can start to make it better for the next time!

I read one story that there was a machine miscount because they pre-programmed it with a different ballot-version in mind.
Lesson learned here: Early versioning-check by the machine.

These errors can always be identified and corrected because every tabulator prints a paper totals tape showing how the ballots for each race were counted.
https://www.michigan.gov/documents/sos/ ... 7197_7.pdf

And now we interrupt this reply with an historic message from Questions Anonimous: https://youtu.be/KHbzSif78qQ?t=14

[daxwc]

ME:

Under which regime did this all happen?

It happened under the Deep State.


ME:

I don't want to put it so bluntly, but don't you think that the implication of such statement actually makes the US incredibly stupid and naive?

I didn’t make the statement Dominion did to the judge.

Quote:

Dominion countered that "allowing such forensic inspections would pose substantial security and proprietary/trade secret risks," Batten wrote.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/judge- ... on-results

[agor95]

In any voting system counting the votes after they are anonymized is one stage of the process.

However verification and duplication of votes investigation is another.

I wonder is there any statistics on this stage?

From an outside observer point of view. How has oversight over individual States and counties processes.

I understand each State creates the laws to control the voting process.

What happens when a new law or collection of laws over time prevent post election investigations.

Can an investigation be triggered and not stopped by the next President?

Just Asking

[eccentrically1]

EC1:

If there was an fbi conspiracy to defeat don in 2016 using info about his campaign gathered by informants,why did fbi director Comey reopen the investigation into Clinton’s emails a few days before the election? I guess he thought it would help her?

What does that have to do with the main stream media willfully ignoring, denying and manipulating a story?

This has to do with the conspiracy you’re talking about, spygate.
Although you’ve introduced other conspiracies along the way, that’s the last one.

Which conspiracy are you referring to now that MM is denying?

[eccentrically1]

ME:

Under which regime did this all happen?

It happened under the Deep State.


ME:

I don't want to put it so bluntly, but don't you think that the implication of such statement actually makes the US incredibly stupid and naive?

I didn’t make the statement Dominion did to the judge.

Quote:

Dominion countered that "allowing such forensic inspections would pose substantial security and proprietary/trade secret risks," Batten wrote.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/judge- ... on-results

At the end of that story^^^

"Look, when a voter votes on a Dominion machine, they fill out a ballot on a touch screen. They are given a printed copy which they then give to a local election official for safekeeping. If any electronic interference had taken place, the tally reported electronically would not match the printed ballots. and in every case where we've looked at -- in Georgia, all across the country -- the printed ballot, the gold standard in election security, has matched the electronic tally," he said.

That’s why the cases have no merit. They don’t claim “fraud� because there is no evidence of it. And everyone in the court knows it.

[daxwc]

That’s why the cases have no merit. They don’t claim “fraud� because there is no evidence of it. And everyone in the court knows it.

Again I think the evidence is in the data “anomalies� but they have no proof. Hard to claim fraud if you can’t prove it. The other fraud is ballot harvesting and absentee voting fraud but they will never get enough proof it was widespread before the electoral college calls the election. Once it is called fraudulent or not it is over, it will not be overturned.

[ME]

It happened under the Deep State.

Thus Trump is Deep State. Check.

https://youtu.be/W1gjutx4w6U?t=31
There's only one 'actor' who tries with sensational claims to undermine the accuracy of all your votes....
...and this 'actor' fired that guy without any evidence.
But that 'actor' is legally allowed to do that.

Again I think the evidence is in the data “anomalies� but they have no proof. Hard to claim fraud if you can’t prove it.

?
It is claimed to be MILLIONS!

I don't want to put it so bluntly, but don't you think that the implication of such statement actually makes the US incredibly stupid and naive?

I didn’t make the statement Dominion did to the judge.

You didn't read the Michigan-report, did you?
Thanks for that link to opinionated mainstream media... Let's see what comes out of those machines.
I'm seriously interested.
With Ec's highlight it should be easy enough to check...
What's actually left behind in the machine?

There is a solution to all of this that should satisfy most of the fraud-claims, which is somewhat hinted but not yet told. But you're not gonna like it.

[daxwc]

ME:

Thanks for that link to opinionated mainstream media...

No problem. Show me a newspaper that isn’t opinionated or biased. You don’t think your favorite is biased because it fits your rose colored glasses.

There is a solution to all of this that should satisfy most of the fraud-claims, which is somewhat hinted but not yet told. But you're not gonna like it.

Yah, dictatorship if they don’t like the current Deep State system.

[eccentrically1]

That’s why the cases have no merit. They don’t claim “fraud� because there is no evidence of it. And everyone in the court knows it.

Again I think the evidence is in the data “anomalies� but they have no proof. Hard to claim fraud if you can’t prove it. The other fraud is ballot harvesting and absentee voting fraud but they will never get enough proof it was widespread before the electoral college calls the election. Once it is called fraudulent or not it is over, it will not be overturned.

You missed the link at the top of the page.


https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/ ... s-debunked


They have no proof because there are no anomalies in the data.
If there was any evidence, it would show up in any recount. The paper ballots would have shown a large discrepancy from the machine tabulations. There is no “ there� there.

[ME]

Show me a newspaper that isn’t opinionated or biased. You don’t think your favorite is biased because it fits your rose colored glasses.

What are you talking about... which favorite?

Besides, I live in Europe. Opinionated news is there, but significantly less.
Nevertheless, I got rid of serial cable TV a few decades ago, basically for that same reason. Time to spare! Try it!
Only when you "tune-back-in", best after a few years when you visit a hotel for instance, you'll notice how both the shows as the advertisements deteriorated in quality and how it tries to mess with your subconscious mind.
You can always watch C-Span and generate your own opinion.

The thing I agree with, and applicable:

People tend to obsess and dwell on things connected to their subconscious.
https://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/view ... 130#178130

Protect and train your own subconscious mind! Seriously.



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Meanwhile a man walks into a Barr and found nothing uttering, "No evidence of fraud that’d change election outcome".

• They claimed to have a solid MILLIONS!
  What happened to that clear wide scale fraud?

Meanwhile, somewhere else...
Bar barrrrrrr... Barr?
No, does not ring a bell. Does not sound like a bell either. William?
Sure, everybody loves a winner. But I don't know this guy, never met him, never even talked to that guy, I never punched him, I barely touched him, I licked a bit maybe. I don't know, I really don't. Who is that?
Probably fake, he's a fake guy.
Who hired him anyway?
That guy who did should be fired. He's fired!